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Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- the owner > of the vale just good police "stuff doesn't get > stipend in my pub", and that was the end of that. xxxxxxx Eh?! Are you sending this from somewhere you can't see what you're writing? :))

I'm still none the wiser. Could somebody explain to me, in words of one syllable preferably, what Cyrena is? I've just googled it, which was no help whatsoever.

I am completely confused. I realise it isn't hard to completely confuse me. Have I missed a post somewhere? Has the Nature Watch thread turned into something else?

Rusty old chair innit.

?120 for one rusty old chair? Bloody hell!

Yes that pancake stall in Hampstead is excellent, but you do have an extremely long wait ..... OK if you have time to spare and aren't ravenous :))

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue that fact that you said you can't always > afford it prove my point, what is the point having > a market just for a few and not for the many. Its > seems there are people with more money than sense. xxxxxx Eh? If you have money, it's up to you how you spend it, surely. Basic supply and demand suggests that if a market stall has mis-judged its potential customer base, it will go bust. Clearly many of the NCR stalls have not, as they continue to trade. Are you saying that, for example, an up-market gallery or designer clothes shop should not exist because they're "just for the few and not for the many"? Do you want to reduce everything to the level of a pound shop? What a miserable world that would be! There's room for everything, surely. If you want an old-style market, East Street is a short distance away, and there are fruit and veg stalls in Peckham, Brixton and Lewisham, also not far. I'm not complaining about not always being able to afford things in NCR. I've had times in my life when I've had money and times when I've not had so much. Why should people who have money at the moment be forced to shop only at places where people with less can shop?

But Fox, it isn't a fruit and veg market! I agree they are great, but it isn't what NCR market is supposed to be .... different kettle of fish (so to speak) altogether. For a time there was a small fruit and veg stall at the bottom of NCR, I always thought it was a bit cheeky considering Prettys was just up the road. ETA: And there are essentials like bread and cheese, it's just very very expensive bread and cheese. But hey if you want very very cheap bread and cheese you can go to Iceland.

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are stalls that do have tat and they are > very over priced, xxxxxxx I guess people must be paying those "over priced" prices round here, however, or the stalls would disappear. I think it would be a pity if the market became a mass of stalls selling cheap tat, like Petticoat Lane. There's a balance to be struck, I feel. Personally I like having the expensive stalls there, even if I can rarely afford to buy anything from them.

Are milk thistle seeds any good to you? The plants grow very tall and are extremely prickly, but very attractive as they have lovely big green and white mottled leaves. And then either purple or white big thistle-like flower heads. Anyway I'm just beginning to collect seeds from mine.

eucalyptus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > So I think the facing the road thing doesn't work > much. xxxxx It's a bit strange because it's half and half at the moment.

I think it was the Saturday before last, the road was still closed around 7.30pm even though the market had long gone. Who is supposed to reopen the road? And I'm assuming the lack of stalls is because it's August, not because of the economic climate.

civilservant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > wow, flapjackdavey (sue???), immortality beckons - > the Flapjack Map of the ED Valley no less! xxxxxxx It's Sue now posting as Sue, though my laptop is still ill :( Thanks for the map John!

nailil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just got off the 'phone with a local tradesman who > informed met hat the police are shutting down > Lordship Lane. xxxxx Well that's just not true because I spoke to a police man and woman patrolling Lordship Lane, around 3pm, and there is no way that they are shutting places down, in fact they said it was "business as usual" and if people chose to close down that was up to them. They had no info at all re any reason for anywhere on Lordship Lane to close down.

My post of appreciation last night was deleted !!! So, again, let me add my thanks to the forum. Agree with everything said above.

Spoke to police in Lordship Lane mid afternoon today, they said they have no specific intelligence re anything likely to happen in this area, basically it's business as usual but obviously up to individual shop etc owners whether they shut. However somebody else we spoke to said that a woman had previously rushed into various shops etc in Lordship Lane claiming that a mob was on its way from Camberwell, and that was why a number of shops had shut. Lot of scaremongering about I think.

chrisw2937 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Violence escalates in east dulwich reports sky > news. Is this true? xxxxx If this is a wind-up, it isn't very funny under the circumstances

You OK, Minkey? The Minkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was on a 343 coming back from work earlier this > evening. At Elephant, the driver said he was > going to have to divert and go straight to New > Cross Gate due to riots in Peckham. What he > didn't say was that he was going to go there via > Peckham High St. > > As soon as we got to the High St, it was obvious > there was trouble going on, down to the right by > that burger place there were a load of police vans > parked up in the road lights flashing and loads of > people milling around. Unbelievably, the driver > stopped the bus opposite the bus station and told > us to get off as he was terminating. Most of us > were still standing there trying to work out a > route home when suddenly a mob congealed and > started smashing in the windows of the big chemist > on the corner just 20ft away. I still can't quite > believe TFL would drive passengers into a riot and > make them get off into it.

Someone just tweeted disturbances now in W11. Man apparently shot in Croydon. Woolwich on BBC News. Things are getting worse, not better.

Perhaps the shift key has jammed on his typewriter :))

It wasn't that long ago he was sticking stuff up near the station - between the station and the park. At least it's type written and not green ink :)

Outside the FIRE STATION?????

Thomas Micklewright Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > a question re basil. > > I have a few small basil plants on my window sill > - they were doing superbly for the past month but > now seem to be dying, could it be overwatering / > rain or too much sun burning them? xxxxxxx When you say they are dying, what exactly do you mean? Drooping, brown areas on the leaves, something else? Window sill inside or outside? As you mention rain, I presume outside? Have you checked for pests?

lousmith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chaffinch doing a rain call? bizarre though it > sounds > > =related > > Thrush song usually varied and beautiful. xxxxxx Yes, thanks, that sounds like it. You mean they do weather forecasting? How weird!

Can't help re the sparrows, but can anybody tell me what bird has a call which sounds like "sweep sweep" with the words quite long drawn out? I remember learning it in school but I can't remember, and haven't found anything by googling. Is it a thrush? Heard it yesterday in ED but never before round here so far as I recall.