Sally Eva

http://www.cyclinguk.org/blog/victoria-hazael/children-cycle-pavement "Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 made it a criminal offence to ?lead or drive? a ?carriage of any description? on ?any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot passengers?. In 1888, s85(1) of the Local Government Act declared that ?bicycles, tricycles, velocipedes, and other similar machines are ?carriages? within the meaning of the Highway Acts?. The maximum court fine is ?500 or the police can issue a ?50 fixed penalty notice (FPN). In short, it is illegal to cycle on a pavement alongside a road, unless it has been marked as a cycle track. However, children under the age of 10 are below the age of criminal responsibility. Therefore, they cannot be prosecuted for a criminal offence. They cannot be issued with a fixed penalty notice either as they cannot be given to anyone under the age of 16. This means that, whilst police officers can theoretically stop young children (aged under 10) who are cycling on pavements, they have no powers to arrest, fine or even caution them. This is sensible, as young children should not be expected to cycle on the road."

I think that an important part of the original poster's concern was that her child was 6. The Association of Chief Police officers' guidance says this regarding the introduction of the fixed penalty for riding on the pavement: "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of the traffic, and who show consideration to other pavement users. ?Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.? The then transport minister said the same thing here: http://road.cc/content/news/108119-transport-minister-responsible-cyclists-can-ride-pavement

New round of consultations on cycle storage. If you want/need a bike hangar in your street, apply here: https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/cycle-hangars-local-consultation/

The Bike Train is for the fainthearted :) Designed by me for the gentle natured https://southwarkcyclists.org.uk/events/bike-train-to-central-london-and-beyond-6/

All that seems like good advice to me. I think I've seen cases of people eating in the car, doing their make up etc which have ended up in court. Smoking of course is bad for you :) And I personally always think when I hear very loud music coming from a car "I've got a psychotic one here" and I give him (and it is generally him) as much space as I can

Could you quote me that section of the Code which says that it is "intended to be understood in the context of average road conditions"?

Which is an opinion, but not what the Highway Code says.

This is a driving school view of the Highway Code: https://www.learnerdriving.com/learn-to-drive/highway-code/the-law The Law Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words MUST / MUST NOT. In addition the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under Traffic Acts to establish liability. Knowing and applying the rules contained in The Highway Code could significantly reduce road accident casualties. Cutting the number of deaths and injuries that occur on our roads every day is a responsibility we all share. The Highway Code can help us discharge that responsibility.

MoysieC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 10m is excessive - a much smaller length would > also achieve Southwark's alleged health and safety > aims. It is clearly a deliberate attempt to put > parking under excessive pressure and then bring in > a controlled parking zone. Why don't the Council > listen to the objections raised by local people? 10 m is the distance which the Highway Code says drivers should leave free around around a junction ie they should not park closer to a junction than 10m. The council has proposed 7.5m.

Blanche Cameron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Near total support for protecting and preserving > the cemeteries as nature reserves. > Over 700 signatures collected at a Nunhead > Cemetery Open Day Saturday. > > People are against this for so many reasons. > > I'm sure they are. What did the petition which they signed say?

Possibly because Nunhead Cemetery isn't "a community-managed nature reserve" but is still open for burials (although nearly full, see below) and not run by FONC. public information about it (published by southwark council) is here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/parks-and-open-spaces/parks/nunhead-cemetery I'm tending to the view that SSW is just having a laugh.

I'm afraid that when the law says should it means that this is what needs to be done. What "should" be done, in fact. When it means you can use your discretion it says "may" The element of enforcement is missing of course because the Highway Code only comes into play in a court when judging negligence ie in this case when parking causes or contributes to an accident. Then a breach of the HC contributes to the calculation of liability. The council is not proposing to enforce 10m, although arguably it should, but 7.5m.

Katy Tonbridge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If it's true that they've decided to go ahead with > all the yellow lines then this is a very > disappointing decision. One of my concerns is > that clearing lots of junctions might actually > have the opposite effect from the one intended - > i.e. it will be easier for cars to go fast around > corners. Keep fighting it, James! The Highway Code says drivers should not park within 10m of a junction because of the dangers to other road users.

Look Blanche, put up or shut up. Penguin doesn't have to do anything. it's very good of him to carry on trying to make sense of all this. If you think a law has been broken or the council has acted irrationally or in defiance of its own policies the proper remedy is judicial review. I look forward to reading the judgement. I do not look forward to lots more pictures of trees.

If you think you have a legal basis to ask for one, why do you ask us? This is not the independent republic of southwark. The law of the land applies here -- that is the catch -- what counts is the law not made-up stuff. If you have a legal basis for your application and you want one, then why not?

"Southwark is acting like a developer - but without any of the legal restraints. That's what councils can do with their land." Legal restraints still apply. I can't see why they wouldn't. The courts enforce the law and the Ombudsman rebukes councils when they ignore it. I'm not saying anything has been done wrong here. I just dislike seeing people toss accusations of illegality around. It diminishes public trust in democracy. We really are dealing with fake news from SSW. The correct next step for SSW if they believe that the council is behaving with unrestrained illegality is to use the courts to restrain them.

Come with us and learn off-road and segregated routes to Kings Cross via Blackfriars. We bike-buddy riders to their final destination. Escorted all the way and totally free. The Bike Train is at a new earlier time due to and inexplicable popular demand to get out of bed earlier. That means 7.45am from Nunhead station, 7.55am from Peckham Rye Station and 7.55am from Denmark Hill Station. The Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill lines join in Burgess Park which is why it?s OK that they start at the same time. The starting point in Peckham is the bike stands behind McDonalds and at Denmark Hill from outside the cafe in Windsor Walk. Camberwell Grove and Windsor Walk have both been closed since we started so this route keeps getting better. Our route takes us through two parks, up a traffic calmed back street, onto the on-pavement cycling lanes on the New Kent Road, around the Elephant and Castle by-pass and onto the still lovely but no longer so new segregation up St George?s Way and Blackfriars Road. All legal and all as safe as your mother would like it. We get to Blackfriars at 8.30am and then a group goes north to Kings Cross and anyone who wants can be buddied wherever they want. Return rides arranged on request. For further details or to book your place text 07842 640 207 (me). Or just turn up. Our website is here: https://southwarkcyclists.org.uk The map of the route is here: The bit from Dulwich Village only runs on special occasions so if that's the bit you are interested in, let me know

If you believe that Southwark is acting not in accordance with the law, the proper procedure is to apply for judicial review. If you have two thousand supporters and this matter is important to them, then it will cost about ?5 each to pay for such a review. The first step would be to take legal advice which is far cheaper. For such an important cause, if you are correct, you would be likely to get pro bono lawyers, that means free lawyers inspired by the public good.

They should make their case to the Solicitor's Regulatory Authority if they feel the firm has done something wrong. http://www.sra.org.uk/home/home.page

ah yes. Maybe not then.

Poison. Their bodies are so small they do not smell they simply dessicate. Humane traps didn't work for us.

The Greens should be quite conflicted because burial is eco-friendly (compoting people really) and the alternative, cremation or burning them at very high temperatures, is very destructive. Of course burial becomes more eco-friendly the more bodies are buried -- so as close as possible together, piled on top of one another. I get the impression that burying bodies on top of one another is the root of SSW objections to the council's plans and yet it is historically normal in the UK. Look at the first scene of Hamlet with the gravedigger to see the historic attitude to dead bodies. "The dust of Caesar now stopping a bung hole"

ring the council contact centre 0207 525 2000 and point out the danger. They will probably close the equipment but that may be for the best

Applespider Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sorchamr Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I dont cycle I go by bus look like cyclist > round > > by Elephant are all very assertive and fast - > it > > looks so scary > > You are right. It does look scary but that's > partly due to it being unfamiliar. As you gain > experience - and those free coaching sessions help > enormously - it soon becomes normal. Naturally you > keep your wits about you but it does end up being > far less stressful than public transport. And you don't have to go round the E&C the way the buses do. I don't. There is a cycling bypass all round the E&C (that you can't see from the bus so not the segregated lanes) used by hundreds of non-assertive cyclists every day. You don't have to wear Lycra or go fast. You can be safe all the time. Start on a social ride -- escorted by experienced riders along quiet backstreets and parks. This one starts from canada water (take your bike there on the train) https://southwarkcyclists.org.uk/events/healthy-ride-canada-water-to-london-eye-along-the-south-bank/

"more methods are becoming available. One it mentioned was composting, though I doubt that would be viable in London given the likelihood of fly-tipping, especially around Christmas. Reading it, I remembered a brochure for what appears to be a more practical solution. I'm no expert, so I've scanned and uploaded it here, so those who know better can make of it what they will". Flytipping dead bodies should be easy to track down the culprits. Cremation is very non eco-friendly as I guess the Guardian article says. Combined heat and power would be one solution -- attach area central heating systems to the crematorium. Also burial in stacks outside London which I would have thought to be the thing SSW most disapproved of. Trees are only eco-friendly upto a point and I would have thought that the composting element of burials would offset it.