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Ahem! On the subject of demographic changes. I was talking to the actress who played the Canteen Lady in Londons Burning. She said that her mother was born in Northcross Rd and in those days Forest Hill was very posh and you never admitted that you had relatives in East Dulwich! How times have changed and I believe it was 99.9% white then.

I think Mrs LL would benefit more than me. I understand a good curry can help speed up delivery! BTW Tried Ganapati the other evening - Keef/Slosh recommendation. My taste buds are begging me to go back. Tops.

Will this be a randomised controlled test with two groups? One group being given a Tandoori Nights Lamb Bhuna Gosht and the other a Sainsbury's ready meal placebo?

Little bit disappointed that there weren't more concessions (after all the hype) as I was hoping to do all my Christmas shopping in one hit. Also disappointed not to see the Zenorian's demonstrating outside and mass traffic jams clogging up LL. The stalls that were there looked great, especially the Oyster and Cheese stalls (What No Sushi!!)and I think once it's fully operational it will compliment LL and Northcross Market quite nicely. Nice one Eddy and all the traders. PS Is there a fire exit? Couldn't see one.

HIPPY!!!! Can you remove a tree in my garden?

Nice. If you smoke a pipe and wear hush puppy slippers

Sounds like Green Communism is the answer. Everyone having no choice but to drive hybrid Ferraris and eat food grown on the communal allotment.

I wonder how CWALD will address these issues? CWALD?

I share your frustration AP. It seems the only way that society acts together unselfishly is when their back is up against the wall. Perhaps like the Spirit of the Blitz. But even then there was still alot of crime going on. Perhaps this is why the government wants our minds more focussed on the war on terror and the threat from abroad from countries like Iran.

Being able to fight doesn't come into it when you're surrounded by several kids, at least one of them flashing a blade, as they try and separate your kid from their possessions. It's more important for your kid to know when to have a go and when to keep stum. Failure to do that can mean a few weeks on a ventilator with a punctured lung.

Joking aside I do sympathise with some of the parents experiences above. My son went to an Independent Dulwich School. He has been robbed because of the badge on his blazer but also on the street or on a train when dressed in civvies. Thankfully he's never been seriously hurt and as he got to 14+ his size meant he was less of a target. However, the point I'm trying to make is that private education, wealthy background etc does not make you any more or less of a target. It is and it always has been a youth culture thing. The only difference is in my day ot was a school cap or pocket money and a good kick in, now it's an ipod or mob. If you look at the statistics it is actually more prevalent amongst less wealthy families in poorer districts. It doesn't help that kids now carry high value items around but in our consumerist society these are simply becoming replaceable commodoties. You can't blame it on "leisure shopping" or the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" it's simply down to the kind of values we instill in our kids as they grow up. Unfortunately these values vary widely and some parents simply do not care. But what's the solution? Surely not a nanny state or worse still, Al Queda imposed Sharia Law?

Just accept it as another stealth tax. We sent our son to martial arts classes from an early age. Initially because of some of the fears expressed above. We're glad we did as the benefits have been enormous. We get countless ipods, heaps of cash and dozens of flashy mobile phones every week to supplement our incomes. Can't believe those little posh kids are stupid enough to just hand them over, especially when they only lost them the week before. At first we thought the police would be on to us because of the obvious hoody disguise, but when they did come knocking we explained that Johnny was under 11 and so they left us alone. He's big for his age too, so when he's not too stoned from all the drugs (nicked from Alleyn's boys) we send him up to the offy to get our booze and fag supplies. His 3 year old sister is proving to be a natural with a switch blade.

The biggest obstacle to a school doing well or not depends on the quality of its leadership and management. We often hear of success stories where the schools were previously written off. Here's an excerpt taken from a recent example of how a well run scholl can benefit the pupils and wider community. School inspectors declared Wildern to be outstanding during its inspection last year and singled out Mr Threlfall for his "inspirational leadership" and praised the "Wildern experience" on offer to all pupils.. Under Mr Threlfall the sp*ci*list arts college achieved dozens of different awards and was the first in Hampshire to gain leading edge status allowing it to set an example for other secondary schools. Instrumental Mr Threlfall was also instrumental in setting up an innovative virtual learning environment for staff and pupils and won a number of national awards for the school's outstanding use of information technology. The community also benefited from Mr Threlfall's tireless dedication with the creation of The D@rt Centre offering community classes in dance, drama, art and music, the community sports and leisure centre and more recently the Wildern Audio Visual Education Centre that can be used as a cinema.

Well he was the original egg'ed. Signed jumper *Bob*?

I'm all for wider and safer cycle paths and access. It would be helpful for disabled peoples electric cars too. Will there be a separate lane for the increasing big pram and buggy traffic?

"rid East Dulwich of the cursed working classes" another very extreme verging on hysterical statement. Peckham has a Farmers Market. Are you saying that Peckham residents don't use it or that they are being forced out of the area because of it?

This is what thery teach in US schools

For Mrss LL this Xmas I've commission a hat made from hand stitched Estate Agent skin: Faux'ton Hat

In that case: Large shoulder of lamb, 2 Ch?teaubriand Steaks, free range chicken and 500g chicken livers Cheers I'll drop by later.

Then I saw her face, now I'm a believer

Alan Dial

I'm right behind you CWALD (but not on a dark deserted street again ;-))

OutED

I think I know that city crowd. Their leader is called Benedict.

Aye, that they are Cock.