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This is the irrational rage thread!

Sorry, but how has "bored" changed from being a past participle to an adjective, and even if it had changed in this way, why should "with" be replaced by "of"? I thought that in both phrases "bored" would be regarded as a participial adjective. Perhaps someone could explain this to me. I know that I'm going to have to put up with it; that doesn't mean to say that I can't deplore it. I reckon that is it just another example of Americanisation.

People who say "bored of" instead of "bored with". When did this usage come in?

No wonder there are kids who don't even know their own name and who haven't been potty trained by the time that they start attending school. Cos their muvvers are on the bleedin' phone the whole time and don't speak to them

What about a fancy cat shop? I'm sure that the pampered felines of ED would welcome this very much.

kdsd77 - I agree with all the comments so far on your post and wish you all the best for the future after this nasty experience.

Since the Camberwell/Peckham route has already been mooted for several (80 years in the case of Camberwell), it would make a lot of sense for this route to be chosen now. Coupled with this argument, the points made above by FredCasa and MissKing are also persuasive ones. The hospital traffic alone justifies a new tube line.

Loz, to me there is more of a link between (a) the idea that "there is no such thing as society" (Maggie's notorious saying) and the Mail almost ignoring the fact that this bloke's neighbours had no idea that he'd been dead for some time than between (b) a newspaper's choice of a man of the match and its support of the Blackshirts. Anyway the Mail can on occasion do good. As I said, they did support the Lawrence family, something that I can't imagine the Blackshirts doing.

I praised the Daily Mail when they named the killers of Stephen Lawrence and dared the buggers to sue them. There again I do remember (only after the event because I wasn't born at the time) their headline "Hooray For The Blackshirts!" For those not familiar with the history of the 30s, the Blackshirts was not the nickname of a First Division football team but of a political party who were somewhat right of centre.

Not true, Loz. I would praise the Mail if they advocated renationalising the railways and top rate tax at 60%.

I'm concerned that the story should have concentrated on the feelings of the "mother of four" (typical Mailspeak) and not on the plight of the poor bloke who died. I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised as the Mail is the embodiment of the world of Margaret "No Such Thing As Society" Thatcher. That's not to say that this wasn't a very upsetting experience for the family below.

Let me get this straight, Bob. Basically you are telling me that you, as a state school educated person who knows a few privately educated people, are in a better position to tell me, a privately educated person, that privately educated people don't benefit from connections. I left my independent school (a very minor one compared with the Bullingdon type school) almost 50 years and I can assure you that over the 50 years since then the old boy and old girl networks have worked very well for a large number of people - indeed I benefited from it at the time that I left school. So you can imagine how much the Bullingdon brigade have benefited from their more lofty school networks. I was trying to put forward my views in a measured way (and remember that I'm not anti private schools per se - just trying to tell it as I see it). However, I'm afraid that you appear to be unable to engage in discussion without moving into a snarky and snide put down style when debating with people with whom you disagree. Indeed, like a number of snide exchanges on EDF and elsewhere on the web, it reminds me of the playground exchanges in my independent school 50 years ago on the lines of "I'm right - you're wrong - you're an idiot". Unlike you, I have moved on from those days. I will therefore not engage in discussion with you on this thread or on any other EDF thread and will not reply to any further posts from you on this thread.

Bob, don't talk down to me please. I know that it's something that some EDF people love to do this when someone has the audacity to disagree with them but I don't like it. I never said that ALL privately educated pupils get on because of their connections but it is not exactly an original observation to say that very many do. It is something that people from other comparable countries have observed and it doesn't help the UK's competitiveness. I am not looking at this from the point of view of someone who has an instinctive hatred of private schools. As I have stated many times already, I was myself privately educated and am therefore in a good position to know how the connections of my school contemporaries have been of great assistance to very many of them.

Bob, I don't think that everyone who went to private school is like Osborne. I went to private school and I certainly am not. And just because you disagree with me doesn't give you the right to try to attribute ridiculous conclusions to me.

Jeremy, I'm not condemning out of hand the independent school system, which in fact educated me (albeit for free). The point I was making was that parents in effect buy better grades for their children, who are then overtaken at university (or caught up with) by state school kids (my own First achieving son being one). And then it appears that the privately educated kids move ahead again because of their connections.

Research has shown that state school children who get to university on average do better than private school kids. This may because the private school kids have been spoon fed through school by the school (and indeed their parents) and can't cope as well with their university courses as the state school children when left to their own devices. That's not to say that the private school children will not overcome their inferior degrees by using the connections that school, mummy and daddy will have provided for them.

I call it The Great British Jerk Off. Tho' Strictly Come Dancing is much more irritating. If you'd told me twenty years ago that two of the biggest TV shows in 2014 were devoted to baking and ballroom dancing, I would have thought that you were winding me up.

One of the things that I find amazing is the number of people who pay for private education but who then also pay for extra private tuition. If the private education is so good, why the need for extra tuition? If you can afford it, then it's better to send your kids to a good comprehensive school and, like us, supplement it with a bit of private tutoring, thereby saving some money for funding the university education that lucky baby boomers like me got for free at one of the best universities in the UK.

Our son went to a good comprehensive school. When he left Dulwich Hamlet, he was on the same level as two of his friends who went to Alleyns. However, he did just as well, if not better, as them at "A" Level and is now on the academic ladder after getting a first, MSc and PhD. Several of his comprehensive school friends achieved good degrees. The money spent on private education is just not worth it. In essence it's a case of the apple not falling far from the tree; family background (and I don't mean poshness) is just as important as dosh spent at securing privilege.

What have lace front wigs got to do with EDF? I am extremely bald but I wouldn't wear one.

Iceland Deep Pan Doner Kebab Pizza - now down from ?1.00 to 89p. Yummy! Please don't tell me we won't be able to buy such delicacies in ED in the future: http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/iceland-deep-pan-doner-kebab-pizza-432g/p/50772

Followed by numerous sizeable insurance claims.

Continual use of the phrase "to die for". "A Baked Alaska to die for". No, you want to eat the bloody Baked Alaska and then continue living. Unless of course you have received medical advice that if you eat another Baked Alaska or another very sweet pudding, you will probably die, and you then choose to ignore that advice.

Where is it stated anywhere online that LB won't be open on Monday? As far as I was aware, the closure was to end today (Sunday).

In the words of a High Judge about 30 years ago "Who the f.... is Bruce Springsteen?"