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Mayow Park I reckon

...Hilly Fields?

That is impressively cheap I must admit.

Not Peckham? I can't place it from the photos. Go on, I promise we won't tell anyone.

nests

I hate myself for having taken the bait. Last post on this thread.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't care about what's happening in Camdem. I > don't care what's happening in East London. > > I'm talking about and I think Louisa is talking > about OUR Local community. There isn't one. > > Even couples in the pubs do not talk to each > other. They just sit there on there mobiles or > ipods. > Wi-Fi has killed conversation. > > The Virtual Community. The internet and > isolation. > > 'Can you keep quiet please. It's Quiz night and > we can't hear the questions if you keep > talking..' > > DulwichFox This is not my lived experience of the area.

London is probably the most diverse city in the world - I recognise the issue with cost of living, rents etc, but come on, places like Hackney, Dalston and Peckham are pretty vibrant today. And I'm sure there are plenty of cool little scenes in parts of London I (quite rightly) know nothing about - I'm too old. It would be kind of sad if kids were still hanging out in the same places their parents did, no?

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > People are generally drinking less and paying > more > > for their beer. > > Unless you go to a Wetherspoons where the exact > opposite is true. I know they're beloved of many, but i can't stand Wetherspoons.

The cost of housing / living in these cities is a problem, I agree. But, the youth will find creative ways round things... ways of reclaiming the city.

steveo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not just London > > http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectato > r-life-life/9477362/how-the-big-apple-lost-its-bit > e/ I can't help wondering if this isn't just old people saying 'it's not as good as it was in my day'. Scenes move on, fashions and areas change. I'm sure if you're a young thing living in New York, it's just as full of danger, wonder and excitement as that journo remembers it being 'back in the day', although the 'hip' places won't be the same ones he visited, nor the neighbourhoods.

I don't agree. Re. ED - I have never lived in a friendlier place. I know most of my neighbours, the kids on our street play together. If I walk around east dulwich I often bump into people I know, even if just tangentially. There is this forum too. To say that the place has no sense of community is nonsense. It is true that East Dulwich is not the most exciting part of London, it is more of a family / suburban area. But there are still plenty of places in London which are exciting, hectic, vibrant. Soho has changed, of course, but then look to East London, which has taken over as the centre of nightlife in London - it's just change. The Capital still has plenty of life in it. That said, there are some things which concern me. We have a major problem with housing of course and the ongoing privatisation of the public realm. I don't like the big, souless, sanitised developments going on in 'regeneration' areas like Nine Elms, Elephant etc. But really, no need to write London off yet.

People are generally drinking less and paying more for their beer. I think that this in no small part, plays into the rising demand for more complex, diverse and better quality beer. Although tastes and fashions change, I can't see the fundamentals altering.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not exactly a break in at Dulwich Hospital, given > the empty site is not accessible from the > hospital. Surprised it's taken travellers so long > to try this - absolute disgrace how long it's been > 'empty'. I seed-bombed* the site a few weeks ago, > just to add some colour and life to the place. > Even if they do start building the new school / > health centre next year, it's been a shocking > waste of space for far too long and a huge > administrative bureaucratic b*lls-up. > > * > http://www.guerrillagardening.org/ggseedbombs.html Agree with that, unfortunately this is Southwarks way. They did a similar thing with the site of the demolished Elmington estate flats. Left acres of land empty for more than a decade.

So is it officially open yet or not? Agree Zaardvark it doesn't look like Tge best design. Brockwell is ace (and Goose Green). It's a shame that neither of our two largest local parks (Dulwich and Peckham Rye) have very good playgrounds.

Oh god, I fear Jules6862 could be my neighbour. :-) people are crazy about parking

I recently started using Uber and it a revelation.

I don't buy that Loz - although I see what you're getting at. There are those who are economically 'on the left' but pretty conservative socially, that's true. I'm not sure it's to do with how 'urban' they are though. The thing is, it's no different on the right - many Tories are socially liberal and economically conservative. This is just the difficulty any party has in trying to appeal to lot's of people with differing views.

Interesting article in the Spectator about London becoming 'Monaco without the sun: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9527222/posh-educated-and-energetic-meet-the-servants-of-the-super-rich/

I shall never use another bus again.

Successful, independent SE London brewer Meantime, has taken over by SAB Miller: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/15/sab-miller-buys-meantime-to-enter-uk-craft-beer-market

Jaffa cakes

That, there... Above. This. I agree

I will only eat gold leaf however after reading the 'most expensive food thread'. It had never occurred to me that it would make your poos sparkle.

GBK has a clean bill of health from the food standards agency. http://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/en-GB/362642/Gourmet-burger-kitchen-Lordship-Lane