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I think best due to ignore (avoid) East Dulwich all together From what I read on this site it appears to have turned into a set from Escape from New York with dangerous joggers, wild dogs and stir crazy hipsters wandering around in gangs. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082340/ Fortunately much better vibe in neighbouring areas. Good film for the lock down by the way.

And sunbathers may also have crept ahead of cyclists, who will rise up the ranks next?

I suppose one good thing that has come out of this is that joggers are now public enemy #1 and no longer cyclists.....

Twins (oddly my first Scandinavian drama)

I picked peas as a student. With hard work you could make something around minimum wage. It was cash in hand but I would have been under the tax threshold. I may or may not have claimed benefit at the time. I expect most others had undeclared wages. It was a mix of students, older retired people, and casual agricultural labourers, I expect mainly Romanies. I wonder what happened to this sort of workforce. Spuds paid OK but was backbreaking, fruit picking was lousy pay and was gangs of school children. With raised fruit plants/bushes it looks easier now.

Yes I'll paste the relevant sections next time, sorry for assuming that you didn't know that grey squirrels are vermin. I also assumed that as I had put the link after the statement that this would have been clear that this was the government position not necessarily mine. I also put a line that even so that I was unable to kill a squirrel which can be either seen as me being a bit rubbish, or a lover of all wild animals including vermin. Digressing in another world before animal charities my father had to kill a litter of stray kittens who couldn't be found a home by drowning them, it was what you did in those days but he said that it was a horrid thing to have to do.

There's a good case for government to be more open. Post coalition it feels less so. But no conspiracy as far as I can tell. The Guardian ran a non-story, and confused flu pandemic with emerging infectious disease. Far easier to plan for the former. The Open Government initiative was a good step forward - I thought that this was Blair but actually it was the Coalition. But like 'Big Society' now confined to the national archives. Both were the right idea. And a final comment is seeing BoJo back in front of the camera he seems to have adopted a presidential role, with nobody being able to fully deputise in his absence. Don't think this is a good thing, with all the background noise that it led to eg on apparent government lack of thinking about relaxing lockdown. I'm sure there was a lot of thinking.

And remember if you are walking in the dark, where something bright/reflective or carry a rolled up newspaper. Sadly I can't find the public information film from 50 years ago advising this. But here is a nice bit of advice about Covid-19 from Living Streets https://www.livingstreets.org.uk/news-and-blog/blog/coronavirus-walking-the-right-way

Cooped up rather than locked up I expect. Although we are in a lock down not a coop down. Aren't most of us going a bit stir crazy?

Germany and German society is not quite as amazing as we often believe - social deprivation in particular the old East Germany, rise of the right, backlash against immigration/immigrants, not always a well oiled machine - some regulation is particularly clunky. But yes, they had this one much more under control from the early days so loads to learn from the handling.

I quite enjoyed this comparison on the Daily newspapers - not sure how objective it is but it scored the Mail as the worst and usefully give the source of the alternative name the Daily Hate: Alarmist headlines", providing "daily hate" according to former owner Lord Northcliffe. "More than any other newspaper in Britain, it deals in falsehood and distortion. Staunchly right-wing. Populist, rabidly conservative, anti-Europe, anti-immigration, anti-taxation, anti-abortion, anti-permissive, concocted moral outrages18. Alastair Campbell said: "It's very hard to see how we can be happy as a nation when every day two million people buy the Daily Mail" The review looks quite old and I am sure has some bias, but I am not letting that get in my way. The Morning Star is scored as neutral and the review doesn't have any more to say. http://www.humantruth.info/uk_newspapers_comparison.html

??? Bursaries, were paid to student nurses, and quite a few of the health care professions, and tuition fees were paid too, until scrapped by the Tories in 2017. The bursary was a few grand a year and means tested, so lower than the student grant of the previous generation but having ?27k of fees paid made a massive difference in terms of student debt. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nursing-applications-ucas-course-drop-nhs-grants-funding-debt-tuition-fees-costs-a8191546.html

So we have a government that has to balance economics, personal liberties, civil unrest, caring responsibilities and general quality of life whilst ensuring that the transmission rate remains at less than one. There are shots of a couple of dozen people surfing at Scarborough. They may be thinking 'this is my daily permitted exercise', 'I'm not going to catch Covid 19 in sea water', 'I'm socially distancing', The second two may be valid. I could join them, if I was prepared to drive to Scarborough, learn to surf, find somewhere to stay, by a wet or dry suit. Which I'm not. Our beaches remain generally empty. Yet there are people who rage on about this, and use pretty emotive language. I'm still struggling to work out why and how this helps the situation. Now if there were 100s of surfers on Scarborough beach I expect the copes would be there PDQ. So I am enraged. I've just been shopping on Forest Hill Road. And two twots in succession parked on the zig zags. I'd happily have the cars crushed to teach them a lesson. I was even brave enough to ask one of them not to park on zig zags. Or I could start a thread on selfish pricks parking on zig zags and endangering life. I don't how this helps in the slightest. Some informed debates on why these selfish pricks do it, and how we can encourage otherwise through good citizenship or enforcement, and collectively influence the posers that be. is useful. And someone may say, 'get a life Malumbu, it is a tiny proportion of motorists'. I think the same applies to the current situation. Still dunno why there are a number of angry people on this site.

Hearing about special advisors and the like getting involved in decision making during the current crisis there are some useful government docs on line including this one on the Scientific Advice Group for emergencies (the 'secret' (as coined by the Guardian)). Not sure why HMG don't publish this guidance or the National Risk Register any more. The attached is from the coalition government. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/80087/sage-guidance.pdf I despise Cummings but not sure how influential he has been in the response to Covid-19 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52421744 One good thing about the current government is moving away from military campaign terms such as battle rhythm. I think that they have kept the dreadfully termed concept of operations. The leaked stuff on operation Yellow Hammer, that I didn't find particularly sensitive or damaging, was good at explaining how this all works, and feeds into COBR. Can't find the document, here's the wiki entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellowhammer

It's not as black and white as the Tories wanting to privatise the NHS. Rather ten years of austerity, under-investment and the Lansley reforms under the coalition, and the soft nationalism peddled by BoJo that was a key element in the election result, This has contributed to low paid but essential workers, disproportionately made up by those from overseas, in a country where many blame immigrants for damaging the UK economy ('taking our jobs' being a 'burden on society). The truth is very different and lets hope that this is a wake up call.

teddyboy23 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Every day for the last few weeks ,on TV in > newspapers 100 s of people dying every day .yet > all these pricks still doing what they > want.walking running in groups sunbathing in parks > strolling down the lane with their essential cup > of coffee .taking selfies stopping on the > pavement to talk to other people.blocking the way > .if this is a lockdown what a fcuking joke .take > these jackasses down the morgues ,and give them a > taste of reality . I am clearly living in another planet. Well a different planet to much of SE22. As what I see on the fringes of SE22, SE23, SE4, SE10 and the like are people behaving themselves, people being courteous, making way, smiling, clapping the front line workers etc etc. The odd annoying person on their phone oblivious or doubling back in the supermarket isle, a few arses driving at 60mph, no doubt a few journeys that are unnecessary and people not living together socialising, mainly at a distance. But not masses. Can somebody explain if things are really that different as you travel towards Goose Green. Are there hordes of entitled people taking the P? That's a serious question as I am just not seeing it in my area and on my daily exercise.

I have no time for the Daily Hate. It consistently is top or near top when you Google about current affairs. I'm certainly not inferring that the majority of SE22 get there information from this dreadful rag (we've all been to the shops at the weekend and seen the Guardians and Observers piled to the ceiling). In the 1930s the Spectator commented after the Mail had come out in support of that lovely/misunderstood Oswald Moseley: "the Blackshirts, like the Daily Mail, appeal to people unaccustomed to thinking. The average Daily Mail reader is a potential Blackshirt ready made." To me this view still stands, but I am rather digressing and this deserves a thread on its own some other time.

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A host of self-appointed Gauleiters. > > How very East Dulwich. Thank you for a new word that I haven't seen/used before!

Grey squirrels are vermin and if you catch one on your land you should destroy it. https://www.gov.uk/pest-control-on-your-property. That said I couldn't do that when one got caught in the bird feeder. My success rate on saving injured birds is zilch as the shock is normally too great. I've saved a few mice that the cat bought in, but not sure if they survive once they have been mauled. If left too close to the house the cat would bring it back in again. RSPCA were not interested when we found a terrapin in our garden as they can survive in the wild. Thankfully someone on this forum took it away (don't worry didn't end up in Dulwich Park).

I care. If you don't care why post? I'd like a bit more discussion and debate on this forum rather people throwing rocks at each other (I am sure I have been guilty).

Good stuff, Camberwell New Cemetery and Nunhead daily 8.30 to 20.30 (to 21.00 from May) Old Cemetery only on Sundays, from 10 (Same closing time as above). Closed except for those attending, during funerals.

It's a fair question. It's brilliant the appreciation that we are giving front line/key workers, including all the home made stuff - rainbows and the like. We have to continue such appreciation in the future. That dig is mainly at our lords and masters. There is a bigger question on the world we want to see post Covid-19, what we will learn and how we may do things differently and better.

Ditto, just do it. I was a bit weary of it, but in such times normal rules don't apply and it does give out a positive message. I used to avoid churches being an atheist avoiding weddings and the like. But that was silly. I wont be singing the national anthem though (had a thread about this yonks ago). However right to discuss and I'm not intending to be patronising.

On Netflix preferably

Classic films to catch up on?