malumbu

I hadn't spotted this thread before. It would be helpful if there was a separate section on the forum. The Covid-19 part could cover all useful stuff on the matter, the positive response from individuals and communities, threads asking for advice and support, and where to get this and the like. We could then have a separate section where shops, joggers, cyclists and the like could be criticised, as this is spread out on three sections. It would be good to have a one stop shop. But as I also have a story to share, when I had my adenoids out as a six year old, and spent 8 days in hospital (it would probably be in and out and keyhole surgery now); ice cream was definitely an essential food. I also did a study on hospitals irradiating food for immmuno-supressed patients and again ice cream was considered to be important for complementing the generally dire diet of autoclaved food. https://inis.iaea.org/search/search.aspx?orig_q=RN:34077959 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0969806X09000942 Ice cream is a feel good food, and we need this sort of treat at the moment.

I caught the Revie team a number of times. It's a physical game that sometimes spills over to a bit of a scrap. If we were celebrating two footed tackles, over the top tackles or the way that George Best could be targeted and taken out of the game that would be a separate thing. Don't be so po faced! Here's another great match. What we forget almost half a century later was the passion - no prawn sandwiches in those days, real time betting, or leaving early for half time and getting back late. It wasn't all about trouble on the terraces. And it was a time when the players would have a booze up in their favourite local pub afterwards. And jumpers for goal posts.

Bees collectively make a surprisingly loud hum, particularly with less traffic noise (cancelled out by petrol strimmers, power tools and the like) Some insects and other animals can make noises in a synchronized manor amplifying it greatly. Perhaps said petrol strimmers and mowers have developed some intelligence and are responsible.

Doing Latifs's bharjees. And later on recipe from yesterday's Saturday kitchen. Yesterday I used mint for cooking, and it was a revelation (normally in drinks and the odd salad).

As there is no football I thought that this would be a good place have a different comment based on predictions. You could score on a number of factors, when the season will restart, whether the matches will be behind closed doors, whether there will be free to air coverage, will the players have to be in a separate collective lock down (by team not the whole lot). Bringing in cliches by commentators could be bonus points.

In deed, thank you, although I wasn't suggesting that the government thought that Brits wouldn't behave themselves. An interesting parallel with the Blitz is that the powers that be didn't think that the working class had the stomach for an intensive bombing campaign, no doubt as the working class did not have the breading and education. The destruction of Coventry was probably the best example of how wrong this was within a day or so communities pulling together, and trying to return to some sort of normality with shops opening one way or another. I'm using this as a parallel example rather than all the general nonsense about blitz spirit, that also included racketeering, looting and pilfering. I've left my discussion mainly to the lounge and generally constructive. This is no laughing matter but at times I can be facetious to support my argument. I browse other threads, but the comment 'morons' just got me. I expect that there are other 'morons' posting on this thread that filled up their boots with tinned food, toilet paper and flour in March. At times this thread feels like vigilantism by proxy. Interesting to see some of the reports of police being unnecessarily inundated with calls including some wishing to settle old scores with neighbours https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-lockdown-uk-neighbour-police-call-nhs-a9464231.html And everyone's favourite on line newspaper (The Daily Hate) ran two stories separated by four days at the end of March, the first a story urging people not to bother the police unnecessarily, the second the opposite (grass on your neighbours). Anyway, back to the positive, I'm hoping that Nunhead cemetery will be reopening, a great place for a walk, and a brief reflection as we are now being allowed to do. Stay healthy and safe. I've been scared off visiting Dulwich Park with the aggressive joggers and Lordship Lane, so I suppose I have got people here to thank.

I reckon about 90% of people are behaving responsibly and going about their normal business (a new normal of course). About 5% are misbehaving and about 5% going off on one about people misbehaving. I'm in the 90% and happy to celebrate the good behaviour, community spirit and the like, hoping that we can build on this in our new world. This part of the Forum is supposed to be helpful/useful. I'm not sure about how useful it is to go on about the behaviour of others, and using terms like 'morons' isn't helpful to say the least.

May have been R-M but as he was proud to announce that he had never changed any of his kids' nappies doubt if he would do the shopping. Hooray, back to the good old days of lampooning politicians.

RIP Norman. My favourite moment: Brilliant match as well. Warning men behaving badly. But fond memories

That was the Daily Star front page after the football was cancelled. Can't find a link but this will have to do instead https://talksport.com/football/683156/moose-ian-abrahams-wife-premier-league-coronavirus/

I was shocked on my daily exercise to see a very dangerous cyclist. He was on this big contraption with a massive wheel at the front and a diddy one at the back. Worse still he wasn't wearing a helmet, rather he was dressed as if it was 100 years ago. Can you imagine the harm he would come to if he fell? I meant to have a go at him about the risks he was taking, but instead gave him a smile and a cheery wave. It was close to Beckenham so best avoid this area. But on the plus point he was so high up it would be easy to social distance. (note, yes I did see a guy on a penny farthing, breaches, tweed jacket and cap)

DulwichFox Wrote: - > Instead of charging and making ?millions > > Just Ban polluting vehicles.. > > That would reduce pollution. > Car lobby is too strong, people are wedded to car use, national and local government too frightened to take on the motorist as a vote loser, public wont use motorised transport sensibly - driving standards and car occupancy (utility) both poor and unnecessary journeys. ULEZ is a blunt instrument, but was proposed by a Tory mayor and the concept of Clean Air Zones introduced by Cameron's government. Sadly twenty years later the fuel protests are still having an impact - successive governments failing to put up fuel duty. We've had these conversations before, I know shed loads on the subject. But thanks for the distraction from other matters! PS this should be under the wider discussion on how the world should change for the better post Covid-19 but sadly many are more more interested in dog poo and joggers.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > alice Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Noted that BBC figures show a 54% reduction in > > shoplifting. > How do they know how much is being stolen? Unless > they are just assuming and extrapolating...I > reckon the shops that are open are experiencing > more than they usually do because a lot of > shoplifters are kleptomaniacs Yep, watch our for this local guy in particular, he has a comedy sketch about his kleptomania. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micky_Flanagan

Not antipathy, rather there are lots of factors and it is not just the wearing of masks. Nice article in Nature - key finding being "Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.". Ie those coughing and the like - I'd hope they will have self isolated. I've worked as a scientist, and in technical areas for many years. But I leave this down to the experts - Chief Scientist, Chief Medical Officer, related fields and their respective teams.

Please don't draw conclusions from those countries where masks are compulsory. Take Austria for example, much lower population density, smaller population, more rural, loads more testing, follow the rules?. All will have an impact, as well as communication campaign and the speed measures were put in force. Do you remember when it was thought that Latin/Norther Europeans may be more susceptible? I've just had a look at the stats and it is difficult to drawn conclusions beyond Austria and Germany have done things better, but Switzerland where you would expect to be similar is several times worse. Sweeping generalisations of course.

A lot of thinking went into regional and national planning after the fuel protests in 2000 when we got severely exposed and Britain almost came to a standstill. This included improved capability to respond, ie resources. Countries like the US have strategic stocks, due to their size, population and the relatively regular occurrence of regional disasters (storms, floods, other extreme weather). The UK is blessed in our temperate climate and we don't have the same extremes. Our capability included such gems as mass fatality plans. https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/tna/20141207004030/https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/archives/london-prepared-London-Mass-Fatality-Plan-v4.pdf Not sure what happened to much of this after the winding down of the government offices for the regions. Government also publishes a National Risk Register to help inform planning, testing and capability building. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/61934/national_risk_register.pdf This is from 2008 and not sure why I can't find more recent versions. Extracting from this: Early recognition of a new infection is crucial and international collaboration and the deployment of surveillance and monitoring systems is key for tackling new and emerging diseases Planning and capability depend on both the likelihood and severity of an emergency - we generally take extreme winter weather on the chin and therefore do not have lots of snow moving equipment. Flooding caught us short therefore we invested in high volume pumps. Why we didn't invest in protective clothing. equipment and ventilators is one for the future.

And Trump just muddies the water. At the end of January he praised the Chinese response: "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!" The bigger picture is how do you get a country and people set in their ways, in a single party state, that is likely to be the biggest economy in the world in future years? Perhaps that battle was lost in 1972 when Nixon won the PR campaign but China was playing the long game and this opened the door to regional domination. There is also a question of 'our divine right' over other species, whether to domesticate/farm them, hunt them for sport, destroy their habitats through farming, fishing. pollution and climate change, whilst we overpopulate the planet. I'd love this to be something that we could do more about after the crisis has ended. Sorry gone a bit off topic but missing some of the more intellectual discussions.

Nice one. Not sure if I like the Sleaford Mods or not, friends think I should. But interesting and nice to talk about other things for a change even if I am going off topic.

Hi Mark. Try watching it, and then share your opinion. It was intended to be helpful, that is why I described it briefly but didn't give an opinion. But I do have an opinion, so thanks for asking. I find it informative, being well and credibly presented. I look forward to hearing your response.

Just a bit of fun, no moral message etc. Is there that activity that you put off for years just waiting for a spare few weeks? A new or unusual hobby? My starter (it's pretty lame) is that for some unfathomable reason I listened to a Black Sabbath album (Technical Ecstasy, one of their best) for the first time since being a student. I've done zoom stuff and the like but that is not unusual. Keep it clean. Just a bit of light relief.

mako Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This isnt about you malumbu and whether you are > having a fun time. What that is me well and truly told. I'll get the t-shirt printed and send a letter to the Times. I did prefer the other slogan though, be nice and don't behave like a twot and we will get through this.

The roads are pretty light round here. You have to stop yourself examining cars as they pass to see if they look like they are on an essential journey. I expect many aren't but that the vast majority of us are behaving. Government is getting data from TomTom, Google, Apple and the like about people's movements and will have a reasonable idea of compliance. Most of the news shots have been from the air eg picnicking, but that has died a death, presumably is it has dropped off rather than the loss of a newsworthy item. The motorists featuring on the news are those doing silly miles being stopped by the police rather than unnecessary journeys in SE London. Maybe this will persuade many of that we no longer need a car.

It's quite a fun game as parcels are being left in interesting places, a sort of Easter egg hunt. We see one, for example left under the rear of a car, and guess what is in it and what house it is for.

I am still unclear on why this thread attracts those that want to criticise cyclists. Maybe SE22 is a parallel universe but I am going on quiet routes seeing a few walkers, joggers and other cyclists, and the odd speeding car but 99%++ allows me two metres from other humans. I know where the few bottle necks are and wait my turn. Cyclist should adopt the primary position in the road and as we have so few cars breathing down our necks this is easier than usual. This position is well away from the pavement, there is generally no need to weave in-between cars so we don't come close to open windows. At times we stop to allow others clear priority and on the parks/paths I use I have no problems with moving onto the grass to give pedestrians clear distance. Most others out smile, thank you, or interact in other positive ways. I fear far more the shopping isles, and no matter how well the queues are managed it is almost impossible to keep 2 metres away from others during most shops.But that is a separate discussion. This outdoor life many of us are enjoying for the 30 mins or so each day should be celebrated.

Bumping this up as this is more relevant than the cock in the White Maserati, that for some reason has three many times views.