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Fortunately I expect that you are not typical of many drivers around here. The residents opposing the LTN recognise we need to reduce car journeys. It's views like yours that make this challenging and the reason we need road closures, traffic calming and speed cameras. Rashmipat out of interest how do you and residents feel we should reduce car journeys?

On line suggests 3 points, depends no doubt on circumstances, and how lenient magistrate is regards the size of the fine. Wouldn't expect there would be any value in paying for legal advice/support unless covered by insurance policy or the like, and unless proper procedure has not been followed probably no value

Sounds like many points and a large fine - the latter usually depends on income. Obviously all depends on circumstances. I expect that if this was a Prince Phillip situation he many have been asked to voluntarily surrender his license. Going to court is quite serious, speed awareness course is the common course of action when drivers have been a little careless. My only experience on the size of fine was overhearing a bloke saying he was going to go to court to challenge 3 points speeding, doing 80, on the A2. The points came with a modest fine maybe a 100 quid plus, court was up to £1200. This was many years ago. Practice what he is going to say as mitigating circumstances.

That's great news, rather than arguing against measures we should celebrate more kids walking to school.

The issue is changing habits. I've worked in sustainable transport for over a decade and behaviours are so entrenched. We all know people who drive at times when there are other options out of habit, convenience, or perceived convenience the Heathrow study a few years ago put up lots of nice soft incentives to support sustainable travel including lift sharing and made bugger all difference. Some of the local private schools do a lot to make it difficult to park yet parents still find a way. And those parking on the zig zags outside the state schools. This isn't just about parents but these are the easy examples. So I am in favour of harder intervention although think that it is wrong for the government to leave it just to local authorities. And meanwhile the motor industry still wants us to trade up to bigger vehicles. It is a shame that some paint this out as cyclists Vs drivers. And frustrating that when you are doing your part you suffer. With time I hope things do change and that the new government play their part. Edited: Heathrow was about reducing driving to work, commutes tend to be longer than many around here and far more people drive. Useful study anyway.

On the roads section there is discussion on cyclists on the pavement In part this will be younger children with a parent of carer. It's great to see so many families out on bikes but a shame that more don't make use of the wonderful traffic calmed roads. I'm probably talking more about the Village. Welcome views. Also what do you reckon to Bikeability? Have your kids done this at school? Have you had your own, free, individual or family lessons. I'm a big fan.

It's using vehicles smarter. Rather than maintaining the status quo. Behaviours are very entrenched. As ever it's a shame that this time energy and cost that is put into fighting change by a few, is not directed into doing something positive. As with other anti curbs on private motorists it appears to be a single issue campaign. A quick search came up with some rabid stuff, some on Nextdoor.com but more informative stuff too. It appears to be restrictions on a small number of cut through roads, that I don't know, but look forward to exploring by bike in due course. I expect costs may be awarded against the group if they lose but let's see what happens. No, I am not supporting them.

In deed, and addressing climate change. A rainy day in Lordship Lane, sometimes I think it's raining all over the world... Yes damn them for providing public services. Maybe the American model of no sidewalks and drive in shops and services would be a better model

What are your proposals to reduce pollution?

Ah the iPad, thinks it is a laptop/pc but acts like a mobile without full functionality. Well at least that's what others have experienced. Maybe the topic for another thread.

I only found out from seeing the wonderful play Nye at the Southbank a couple of months ago. Educational in deed, and senior doctors painted out as very arrogant in the late 40s

Totally misquoting me. I've offered solutions. They are all of the softer good citizenship variety. The point on other road users concerns enforcement. I very much doubt whether there will be any major national or local campaigns against cyclists when others cause more harm. As for cycling on the pavements people do that for a variety of reasons so not a single answer. Parents are progressively more risk averse, even as the number of cycle routes and traffic calmed roads increase. So how do you change this? Cycling on the pavement is a nuisance and gives ammunition to those opposed to active and sustainable travel, a shame. But for me the benefits of cycling far outweigh this downside. I struggle to understand why a number of you are so angry about cyclists.

Private ownership of GP surgeries was there from the off. It was one of the sops that the government had to give to the BMA to get their agreement to the establishment of the NHS. Ditto allowing medics to also practice privately.

I disagree. Too many deaths due from poor air quality, and accidents with motorised vehicles. Climate change is now for real. Some local authorities are attempting to do something about it. The Supreme Court compelled the UK to sort out air quality. The UK has legal targets for cutting carbon emissions. I'm hoping for more from the centre from the new government. We all need to take our responsibilities more seriously.

It would be good if you engaged in the debate. In this occasion solutions. The numerous personal snipes over the last two years or so are unhelpful. I provided factual context, in that cyclists will not be the top of the list for authorities as public enemy number 1. And as others have reported most cyclists are also pedestrians, public transport users, and pedestrians. The us vs then helps nobody.

Bit daft of Southwark to say this. But society would not function if a consensus was sought, particular as self interest trumps the wider picture. Should we pay more tax for public services. Many would say yes. Do you want to pay more tax, most would say no.

I've had no traction in discussing solutions here. Mine, as said before, is education, training and an end to fabricated culture wars car drivers Vs other road users. Labour has made a good start on ending the latter, and TfL has consistently presented a strong message about sharing our roads. As for enforcement on two wheels illegal e scooters and bikes are a bigger issue, in part the authorities need to stop pandering to the delivery companies. Hard line on importation of illegal vehicles And as consumers we should exercise our powers by not using Deliveroo etc until they sort out their act, even better PAYE for their delivery cyclists. And of course echoing others that motorised vehicles do far more harm.

Consultation not a referendum as we all know. If we did everything by referendum then nothing would ever be done. Nationally referendums haven't got a good history, we need voting reform but we didn't get it. Perhaps we needed a better relationship with Brussels including reform of the EU, instead we shit ourselves in the foot. Not all of us are against cubs on motoring. Edited: Meant shot but I've amused myself! It was an informal consultation in any case. Statutory consultation next so perhaps save your views till then

Would both of you like to précis what is in your links? That would be helpful as I don't have a long attention span!

This has turned from a useful thread warning about criminals in our area to yet another attack on cyclists. A shame.

I've never heard of a cyclist doing this. The person is on a motor scooter rather than moped. If you see a newish motor scooter, with no stickers identifying it as a delivery scooter, with most of face covered be on your guard. If you did consider yourself vulnerable following a confrontation then the police should attend. I feel vulnerable and threatened. Blues and twos (sirens and blue lights)

I've never had a problem walking down Lordship Lane and as others have seen it improve. I'm reasonably mobile and my trips on paving stones over the years have been elsewhere. I'm also looking forward to Dulwich square and support the measures to reduce vehicle use and increase active travel. I'm happy with public transport, use buses a fair amount and love the electric ones but Boris buses are a silly indulgence. I've got a positive outlook on life, geo politics, the rise of populism and climate change worry me but generally not local stuff - exceptions are too much closure due to maintenance on Southern and the overground lines (step up please Ellie) and selfish parking. I'd happily give up some street parking for wider pavements and we of course have those pesky and non-road legal ebikes and scooters to accommodate..... some how - dunno the solution. I wish other car owners and drivers would follow in my footsteps and look to reduce their use Of course we should and can improve things for vulnerable citizens but the tine of the debate saddens me.

His forecast was wildly optimistic/idealist and had gone through no stress testing ie what ifs; at the time there was considerable global insecurity which he ignored, similarly climate change. He wanted Brexit and had to backfit an outcome suitable to justify it to others. That is not how analysis and projections work. Big corporations look ahead ten, twenty and more years ahead and come up with a variety of scenarios what the world could look like, not necessarily what it will.

Those are not the reasons Brexit has failed so badly, and if anything we would have been in a better position in the EU rather than out for the above. Instability in the middle East, the craziness of Putin and potential for a SARs type pandemic were all known before we voted. Let's face it he is a small islander harking back to the days of Empire and gunboat diplomacy, who exploited many people's xenophobia to deliver a massive home goal for the UK.

Wow land of hope and glory eh? He failed to predict the lurch to the right and populism, which in part emboldened Putin. And increase in extreme weather; he had no issues with extraction of shale gas and increasing our carbon footprint.