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I think that says it all. We will move from world leaders in electric vehicles to also rans, It does not give a signal to overseas' investors that Britain is the place to do business. Don't just listen to me, this is what the experts in the industry say including Ford and the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders say. Ford's UK chair Lisa Brankin criticised the move. She said the original 2030 target "is a vital catalyst to accelerate Ford into a cleaner future", adding the company had already invested £430m in upgrading its UK plants to produce electric cars. "Our business needs three things from the UK government, ambition, commitment, and consistency. A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three," she said in response to the BBC reporting the prime minister was considering weakening several green commitments, to save money. Stellantis, which owns Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen and Fiat, said it was "committed to achieve 100% zero emission new car and van sales in the UK and Europe by 2030", regardless of any delay to the ban. But it added "clarity is required from governments" over such issues. Mike Hawes, chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufactures and Traders (SMMT), said consumers would be sent an "incredibly confusing" message due to the delay. "The concern now is, does this cause consumers to delay their purchase [of an electric car]?," he told the Today programme. Simon Williams, head of policy at the RAC motoring group, said the announcement of the delay risked "slowing down both the momentum the motor industry has built up in switching to electric". My favourite (unattributed personal views from the sector and certainly not published): What an appalling, disingenuous statement… his press conference was delivered like a bedtime story to a large group of children. There’s certainly one thing Britain is world class at: delivering delusional policy announcements. Starmer, please don't follow suit. Just to add I would never have thought I would have wished for Johnson to be back, well on this issue anyway......

Is there a Facebook site? If not worth setting one up. I've joined one for my old primary school, an odd experience connecting with people after all these years

Got loads of veggy cookbooks but tend to go on line in particular BBC

Rather a sweeping statement on underprivileged workers. Comparisons with the 1970s pander to the GB news crowd, it's like comparing a small punch up at a lower division football match with 1000s scrapping at Man U away matches in 1975. A different world and a different scale. Working life in Australia is also very different in the 1970s they called striking the "English disease" where days lost through industrial action down under per worker were higher down under. For many sectors we need stronger worker protection, and better pay and conditions - hospitality, catering and care being great examples. Hands up who orders food to be delivered by someone on zero hours contracts. Rather than government saying over 50s should become delivery riders, better if they said that Deliveroo should make their riders PAYE, give them training, ensure they use lights and night and don't ride illegal bikes (better still provide them).

Action fraud: www.actionfraud.police.uk Cifas - personal registration when you have had ID theft www.cifas.org.uk/pr

I was talking about grey squirrels, someone posted about bats at the same time hence I added another paragraph to clarify. Vermin/invasive species in order of my dislike: Squirels Rats Feral pigeons Canada geese Green squawky things I'd only kill the top two if in the house. I'm nice to house mice, love spiders, tolerate wasps, try not to kiil ants, and depends on how much damage they are doing can live with snails and slugs. At ease with most species that have long since become native such as starlings. And foxes with their supernatural sounds at night don't bother me either.

I got hacked at Xmas. It may have started with the theft in the post of a new card, but they probably got into my emails as well. Most ID crime is on line. Change all your passwords, set up dual whatsitsface authentication, contact all your financial institutions, register on a credit rating agency, and report to the frauduline site. Will post link later. It's horrible and very intrusive. My mobile number was also stolen which alerted me to the likelihood that my banks were being approached. Calling them up to be told that I had already phoned them that day was surreal. Some financial institutions were better than others. Good news was that I wDnit out of pocket - a few £k was taken. Also makes you paranoid that someone is watching you at home. I found that it is relatively easy for them to transfer your number and crack your credit rating.

Don't catch them as by law they have to be killed. Best to get them in a black plastic bag and hit them on the head with a spade. Maximum two hits otherwise it is inhumane. They are an invasive species that have caused serious damage to our ecosystem. Sorry that was about grey squirrels. Went on a lovely bat walk last week at Nunhead cemetery. We occasionally see bats in our street, probably due to proximity to Horniman Gardens

It happens everywhere. I won't go on about my experience both from my school days and those of my family. It's not right but hopefully schools and police do their best to tackle it. What a silly post by the way CPR, hope you are not trying to get this part of the site suspended too

Because One Dulwich pretend to be in favour of action to reduce emissions, heavily caveated, but when asked come up with a load of words ignoring the question. Hmm sounds like some on this forum. Wouldn't energies be better spent campaigning for things to be done rather than stopped? I'll cut and paste some words from them idc, and check the definition of flannel pdq

I contacted One Dulwich to ask them what measures they would introduce. Got a load of flannel back. Let's face it, a single issue group with no alternative options for tackling poor air quality and climate change. Pretending they care about it is just a front.

Crazy Horses, by the Osmonds, decrying gas guzzlers and pollution in 1970s USA. I expect future generations will look at us with the same words "see what they've done"

According to Peter Skellern, lady and man are appropriate gender specific terms. Happy to hear of a gender fluid equivalent to the person on the Clapham Omnibus. Well that probably is the appropriate term.

Cycle racks are not secure Rocks. I've had bikes stolen from them. Cycle hangers can also he broken into but have an extra layer of security. However you see yourself the man or lady on the Clapham Omnibus would see you as pro car and anti bike.

Oh just throw it back with your anti cycling stuff. Cyclists have to pay for secure on street parking. Hopefully money from the CPZ will make cycle parking free.

Earl's made a fair point. Why not debate it with him,/her rather than dismiss it. We've had people in the past use the road as a second hand car lot.

This thread does not seem to be a discussion, worse is when people just post a link without any explanation

I used this as my commute for a few years, returning in the dark in winter and in the occasional post work trip to the pub. Never had any issues or saw anything untoward. Yes I expect from time to time there is some bother but hopefully not frequently enough not to use the route.

Bessemer Grange is also brilliant at getting their kids trained. Everyone should get themselves a free cycle lesson. It's all about sharing the road and reducing hazards

It's good, lots of kids at Bessemer Grange school walk and cycle. Those on faster rides don't wake up in the morning think "let's cycle into a child today' Bessemer Grange is also brilliant at getting their kids trained. Everyone should get themselves a free cycle lesson. It's all about sharing the road and reducing hazards

So no restriction on where we are allowed to drive then? Let's open up all closed roads, make two way one way, get rid of those pesky speed bumps and narrowed sections, and whilst we are at it paint over double yellow lines. Drivers should be trusted to do the right thing. There is loads of evidence to show that if you do this, perhaps in rural Sweden, that driving speeds come down and everybody shares the road with a smile on their face. Ah, I remember, I saw a documentary on this, believe it was called to the Truman Show. So serious question - does society need controls on where and when motorists drive, what they drive and how they drive? For many on this site it appears not. Here's the evidence for you to peruse

Had two wowsy moments. Saw a kingfisher in the UK, I'd seen flashes of blue down rivers but never properly caught one. Fortunately someone pointed it out to me, although this was WWT Arundel not SE22 But..... I saw this massive bird fly off yesterday morning, from previous discussions it is most likely a sparrow hawk and from time to time we have a small mass of pigeon feathers in the garden. Sparras have gone but small group of starlings still around

What I see is a failure is the government not tackling air quality when they were ordered by the Supreme Court to sort this ASAP in 2015 What I see if a failure is the government not doing more to persuade the masses to reduce their personal motoring for environmental and health reasons What I see as a failure is the government not explaining to the masses that from the early 10s new emission standards were not delivering the expected reductions in roadside NO2 and gently pushing those driving in mainly urban environments to move to small petrol cars, on the understanding that diesel still made best sense for those doing long A road and motorway journeys. What I see as a failure is the Tories not backing their own policy (ie LTNs) and worse still Starmer and Sunak now competing who can be the best friend to the motorists. What I applaud is the local authorities trying to do something about vehicle emissions, whether they have the ideal solution or not, they are having a go.

Oh no another call for arms. The Beeb includes stories that they think will carry a bit of interest. Whilst it should be objective based on the current news there is one on a failed LTN and none on successful traffic reduction schemes. Therefore the Beeb is totally against LTNs. I also see that they are fully in support of criminalising nitrous oxide use, carrying the government's line without any broader discussion on the downsides (in harm terms it's relatively minor, 'enjoyed' by 100,000s who could now get a criminal record). Shame there isn't more on Scotland looking to ban disposable vapes which is now well down the Beeb pecking order. Hmm, I'm just saying that one scheme that was cancelled, heralded by the right wing rags, and picked up by the Beeb isn't a sign that all LTNs are bad and that they will all be cancelled. Looking forward to the time when this wont be news any more, sooner rather than later so we can put our energies towards more worthy matters. So no I don't think that there is any fight.

In deed Mr C. Do the Mail and Telegraph ever have positive stories about lefty councils and the environment or health? I doubt it.