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Ohhh, Illya Kuryakin has passed on. Great Escape too. And thinking of the perfect Summer Breeze - www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67098878

Sadly Dulwich Estate who can be RRSSSss. But returning to good things free cycle training for all supported by LBS www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/sustainable-travel/training/free-cycling-lessons

Earl, save your breath, you I and others have said this so so many times, but for some reason the anti-cycling stuff continues! But if this is a cycling thread, which I expect the intention always was here are my issues: Lack of training - particularly delivery riders (something government should tackle). Recommend free training for all, which this government is committed to: www.southwark.gov.uk/transport-and-roads/sustainable-travel/training/free-cycling-lessons Lights, I really don't get this as the basic ones are so cheap, and it is not just youngsters Mobile phones, as per above not just youngsters and this as lack of light endangers the rider more than others (as opposed to tin boxes where you have a steel cage to protect you). That's my moan, the only thing that deters me from cycling is theft, having had a bike stolen about every ten years locked to street furniture. Safely doesn't bother me as I am trained, I have lights, don't use hands on mobile and the benefits far outweigh my personal safety. If this is a general thread about transport trends I'll talk to my contacts who are experts and report back.

Then it is a common perception rather than a reality as most drivers and most cyclists are courteous and happy to share space. TfL did a good poster campaign about sharing the road. Maybe national government should do too although the loud petrol heads and conspiracy theorists will no doubt read some woke agenda into this. Although maybe woke should be used as a positive term rather than pejorative.

Semantics but it is not good journalism to use Kings Hospital and suggest that the original poster ain't be from these parts (said in some Victorian rural accent). Yes we all say Kings when we are talking to friends and it obviously about a medical matter. Otherwise KCH or the first three words in full.

I've always found Kings College Hospital fine. It's a bit of a warren but what does that matter. I don't know anything about Kings Hospital.

I harvested my first ever hazel nuts, not really worth it by the time you have shelled, skinned and roasted them. And the danger of leaving shell behind for deteriorating teeth. Gold finches going crazy this year, I expect they had the full three clutches....

Yes. Out of interest the Conservative Manifesto states: We will support commuter cycling routes, so that more people can cycle safely to work and more families can go out together. We will create a new £350 million Cycling Infrastructure Fund with mandatory design standards for new routes. We will extend Bikeability – cycling proficiency training – to every child. And we will work with the NHS to promote cycling for healthier living. Not a fan of this useless government, and perhaps they should have gone much further in terms of active travel, but no issue with the general principles above. So not quoting from the Manifesto benefits of cycling: Improved mental and physical health of the cyclist Health of the pedestrian (through reduced emissions Contributing to climate change objectives Personal mobility for those who are too young to drive, don't want to learn to drive, don't want to own a car and/or would rather not drive Generally quicker journey times Lower cost than other modes of transport Less cars parked on the road, as well as less car journeys And available to virtually all, adapted bikes and electric assistance for those unable to ride standard push bikes or just want a helping push. Try it you will love it. Here's some homework on social prescribing for you to consider https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/active-travel-social-prescribing-pilots-local-authority-allocations www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/social_prescribing_active_travel_toolkit.pdf I'm not put off by fluctuating statistics I'm into the principles, and if there is a problem with any long term significant demand then I expect my elected representatives and my prime minister to address this.

Rocks - fair question why did you not just raise this on the LTN thread. Why start another one. This is your point isn't it?

Disappointed that as a cyclist you are not championing this mode of transport. You've got a lot of valuable experience. (That's a positive comment)

As most threads you post on are negative about Southwark Rocks, that's not a jibe but a factual statement, there are plenty of others threads out there to express your displeasure. Sue, do you know how good Southwark are at supporting cultural events? I assume that they are involved in the Dulwich festival and the Dulwich Park show. Used to take the kids to the latter and recall it being great. There are other threads discussing the good and bad experiences of events/festivals on the Rye and Dulwich Park organised by outside bodies.

To the tune of Lola by the Kinks!

If you cross over to Lewisham CPR you will go from lovely laid well maintained slab pavements to cracked paving stones not well laid in the first place with small forests growing from them, damage made from cars and skips, tree root damage all poorly patched with tarmac. On the positive Lewisham are pretty good at planting and maintaining street trees. Thanks for the positive stuff on LBS nice to get some balance

Rocks as per original post, slightly amended, this is for this is about the Council and your Councillors. Please do not hijack, and that goes to the rest of you on the CPZ/LTN etc threads. It would be interesting to hear positive experience on planning, both projects that have been approved and where you were successful in objecting.

Well I never. I lived in the edge of Ruskin Park always believing it was in Southwark. Good to hear some good things about LBL penguin.

The pavements are great. And libraries. I expect some have positive experience of social care LBS provide, child and adult social care and help that their councillor/s have provided. Please please keep this to positive stuff. Thanks all.

Hope you will all be responding to the consultation. The point on cost of living and continued car use is not a good one as if we looked at whole life motoring costs many of us would switch to alternative modes walking/cycling/public transport/Uber/car clubs/car hire/lifts. The latter four scupper this whole idea of I need a car for convenience. For many in urban area car ownership is a habit, or worse still a status symbol, rather than a necessity. Ps love the bloke on question time from Somerset last week when they were talking about HS2 cancellation and new regional rail projects. He forgot the wonderful links that Brunel introduced with fast connections between the capital, Taunton, Yeovil, Bridgewater, Castle Cary and the like. Thanks to the usual suspects for extending this discussion to unnecessary motoring and entitled motorists. Not sure on the continued criticism of the local authority. Surely there must be something you like about Southwark?

There's a general point on consistency and fairness. The two cars and a delivery BM vehicle this morning on the zig zags by the Turkish Supermarket on Forest Hill Road are highly unlikely to get a penalty notice. Yes I understand that this is not strictly a parking offence as in terms of controlled/paid parking but it pees me off more than someone parking longer than they paid for. Oh dear I am getting on my entitled drivers hobby horse so will shut up.

(a) it's getting boring so many threads devoted to Southwark Council (b) rather than complaining on social nedia do something about it, join a political party, maybe even stand yourself Or (c) move

Who the Tories?

Wouldn't you say that charging people into driving on certain streets is limiting their movement? This is what government did when they came up with Clean Air Zones in 2015, already preempted by Mayor Johnson with his annoucement of the ULEZ. Ditto for the C charge. In fact every thing that national and local government do to restrict traffic, dead ends and cul de sacs, fuel duty, bus lanes, cycle lanes, Vehicle Excise Duty, VAT, speed controls, driving licenses, MOTs etc etc is designed to control us and imprison us in our homes. We must man the barricades and take to the streets. Hasta la victoria siempre! That appears to be your logical solution. Those extreme groups campaigning for motorist's freedom are also opposed to road user charging. That is something you are OK with Rocks.

Fortunately the BBC have listened to me and debunked this conspiracy theory nonsense on 15 minute cities. Rocks why are you so drawn to this? Looking forward to you debunking the BBC debunking this. [That's banter not personal snipes 😉] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66990302 What a shame the BBC couldn't have verified the tosh that came out of the Leave campaign the way they fact check and verify stuff now, we many still be in the EU.....

Think Froggy has got it spot on Rocks, and even if you don't agree as a discussion forum we all have the right to express a different view. I'm hoping that my Street WhatsApp doesn't start on CPZs as it has already been infiltrated by some anti vaxer nutters, and I think it is fair to describe them as that who posted 15 minute city conspiracy theory nonsense. More on that elsewhere.

Rocks, we should all be pro active travel. By using your wording it could suggest that those who oppose LTNs etc don't believe we should walk and cycle. I've said numerous times it doesn't help by putting people into camps. I've just used a ludicrous example. There are those on the extreme which believe we should drive everywhere (not so far off the truth in large areas of the US) and those who would ban all cars. Most believe somewhere between the two. I'm still not getting these views that local authorities could and would enforce restrictions in travel between neighbourhoods. Everything I read, and perhaps Google has me so well profiled it leads me to different articles than others, which appear to suggest that there have been bizarre interpretations of what Oxford and others have said. I find Politico informed and balanced: www.politico.eu/article/dont-lock-me-neighborhood-15-minute-city-hysteria-uk-oxford/ What do you and others think of this report?

There is plenty of good sense in the concept that most of what we need to survive is relatively close to hand, retail, education, entertainment, faith etc. That was Britain until the railways led to the new suburban class. As opposed to say Los Angeles and their three ways and some of our new towns with hubs off a ring road. Yes I have been to Redditch. But now this is associated with the conspiracy theorists and weaponised by the Tories. I haven't a clue how this can be achieved in an existing urban environment. So I don't believe any local authority could attempt to achieve this. Funny how Oxford is used as a supposed example when they actually closed most of their city centre roads 35 years ago, so like a Dulwich Village with spires and a river but no cars. Difference is there is an urban underclass that can enjoy it too. I expect that model villages like Saltaire, Bonneville, and Port Sunlight also delivered a 15 minute type concept. Albeit, certainly in Bourneville a very controlling patriarchy. Love to hear from some quakers on this view. It may be useful for planning new communities but that by the O2 hasn't got it right. They were trying to learn from this with Stratford redevelopment on the brown field site but I expect that failed too, yuppy flats and a ginormous shopping centre. But as for local authorities controlling us, as say the Cadburys did, I can't see any way that authorities could impose thus. So Forbes article got it right. Hats off to Kuenssberg for not letting Sunak off. She will do the same with Starmer. Streeting spoke better but please use other examples of the cost of living crisis not a litre of fuel. Surely the cost of housing and rental market far more important.