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Buy an old bicycle ride up and down the main street saying hello ooh err to everyone you see then chase after them asking if they need their car washing. Unless another village local is already doing that in which case you'll just have to wait your turn sitting on a wall with a gallon of scrumpy to sip on whilst you while away the day.

I had my elm cut down best ?1200 I've spent in the garden, makes it a pleasure now feel light and twice the size.

yep If it's not broken, don't fix it.

Spend 3/4 of your new life in your car.

Dealing with live financial systems where the number of computations and orders are enormous, by a massive factor far larger and far more complex than the Olympic ticket site. They apparently have the correct hardware but the programmers didn?t do a good job. Bless em they only had 5 years. hehehehe

Chillaxed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OK, thanks red devil. Maybe I just needed a bit > of hand holding and a couple of renditions of > Kumbayah to make me feel better about my UPVC's. That's a Casement UPVC not a Sash. You've got a few options. 1 paint them use the upvc primer . 2 Remove and see if the original sash boxes are still either side . if they are then you can get sliders made and go back to original timber sash windows for ?500 ish . you could also go with double glazed but that would mean replacing the weights with heavier ones . If you find the boxes are gone 3 install new Timber at ?1000 to ?2000. 4 replace them with new upvc sash see my link to quickslide.co.uk. maybe ?300 if you diy.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When I buy my next property I'll be asking for a > reduce price to reflect cost of replacing UPVC > windows. Personally, never lived in Clapham or > Surrey. If you do that then you'll end up not getting that house. Silly prices being paid regardless. I missed out on a house which had pebble dash to a couple of city lawyers working on the Lehman Bro clean up. Maybe when there are loads of houses up for sale you'll be able to pick and chose but right now and for the last v many years it's grab what you can when you can around here.

Heheehehe bye bob

Agreed they dont' look quite as nice. But hell on earth ?2,000 for a timber one that's more than I paid for my car! There's no way I'm going up a ladder with a tin of paint, one fall and I'm either dead of worst. Most people just care that they look ok are cheap and cost v little to maintain.

BPF slams attack on PVC-U windows By Hamish Champ Posted 3 May 2012 The British Plastics Federation (BPF) has labelled as ?inaccurate? an article in the Financial Times which suggests PVC-U windows are damaging the planet. Writing in the FT, Dr Simon Thurley, chief executive of English Heritage, said PVC-U windows caused ?serious damage? to the cultural value of historic town and village centres. He wrote that an estate agent survey in 2009 found house prices could be depressed by the installation of PVC-U windows and doors, some of which had been fitted illegally. ?Research has now shown that the energy savings generated by PVC-U windows will never cover their capital cost because most have a life of less than 20 years,? Thurley further claimed. The BPF hit back, arguing that organisations such as the Building Research Establishment had put the lifetime figure at a minimum of 35 years. Nor was any credit given to PVC-U window?s energy efficient characteristics, the trade body said. Describing the article as ?misleading?, the BPF said it had written to both Thurley and the FT to state the material?s case. In a statement the BPF said: ?The unfortunate article alleged that most PVC-U windows had a life expectancy of only 20 years and that consumers installing PVC-U windows were ?damaging the planet?. ?To permeate the text with more misinformation, the article says that PVC-U windows are ?instantly recognisable because they cannot imitate historic mouldings, glazing bars and proportions?. ?The BPF has written to Dr Thurley pointing out the inaccuracies of his article, with details including case studies of successfully installed PVC-U windows where heritage designs were required,? it concluded.

Who said they were identical? Greenpeace don't factor in the ongoing maintenance the www.cibse.org article correctly says timber have the highest cost in terms of maintenance. UPVC 25 year v conservative more like 40 years. When was that written looks like 1998 things have moved on... If they do last the 40 years (v conservative) then they recommend painting every 5 years with inflation that?s scaffolding at ?1k every time with inflation every 5 years at 5% that?ll be Year 5 ?1000 10 ?1050 15 ?1102.5 20 ?1157.625 25 ?1215.50625 30 ?1276.281563 35 ?1340.095641 Y 40 rip em out and replace them? So Scaffolding ALONE !!!!!!!! Total ? 8142.008 When you factor in the fuel energy cost and the paint delivery production and delivery cost and the decorator energy and travel cost. The UPVC = the lowest impact on the environment. Who are these idiots who work out these environmental impact calculations. Let?s add the cost of the decorator and the paint Year 5 ?800 10 ?840 15 ?882 20 ?926.1 25 ?972.405 30 ?1021.02525 35 ?1072.076513 Paint and decorator ?6513.606763 So total maintenance for timber windows on the front of a regular Victorian house (not the rear) is ?14,655.614. And you have to put up with all that AGRO?.. Upvc is ?0. And zero agro?.

What a complete Snob if UPVC is good enough for council housing it's good enough for me. Especially as the upvc sash windows I'm talking about look almost idential to the timber ones. I believe 10-15% of the Victorian houses in ED are owned by Southwark or a related Housing association. So many council homes are lovely Victorian terraced houses. Our Tax money pays for their maintenance My previous flat Southwark were the Freeholder and also leaseholder of the other flat in the lovel victorian house. I don?t think having Southwark wasting tax payer money on expensive Timber windows and all the expense of the continual maintenance is a particularly good idea.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > UPVC windows is a bit like m&s clothes. Both > promises a lot in terms of style and value but are > clearly hideous and only suitable for the > landfill. Yes not Armani but more that capable of doing the job. Our council tax money is being spent on renewing windows on council flats and houses would you want Southwark to install ?2,000 timber sash or the ?500 Upvc ones. .? Even if that council flat or house was nextdoor to me I know I'd rather they put in the Upvc. In an ideal world timber sash would be ?700 and a new paint would mean paint them once . But the reality is its ?1000+ and probably the same ageing in maintance over 15-20 years and ongoing..... Have you seen the new Upvc sash windows?

DulwichDeviant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Clearly you have no taste. > UPVC THE WORLD. > Tasteless people should stay well away from the > property game. > > The op asked for advice on costof box sash > windows. Not a debate on Chavvy Upvc > > You keep refering too UPVC box sash ? > Do you even know the correct end your body poo's > from. > It appears to becoming from the wrong orifice here > ! > Poor original poster asked for cost on a box sash > price then the thread got hijacked by your views > on cheap and chearful. No wonder the question > never got answered ! > > Box Sash Upvc should be made illegal they are > hideous ! Wtf are you talking about ? Poo you fookin twat. The question was answered clearly he can pay ?1000 for softwood ?2000 for hard wood or ?500 for Upvc. have you even seen the new upvc ones ?

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There's a huge difference between tagging and graffiti and graffiti art. I hate 99.9% of all versions.

I looked up my recipt for anyone interested. I've got sash version with the horns and chrome fittings they now do other finishes too. They have an online pricing system. http://quickslide.co.uk/

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west dulwich or forest hill or honor oak . Might be a better bet in future values over NH. Id try and stay in ED as ED would still outstrip most other areas over the next 10 years it's still a long way from being fully valued. M&S or no M&S ...

Looks like it was written by a teenager with a brief to upset as many users as possible and just spew out what it fancies when it fancies if it fancies . I tried for my mate for a couple of hrs enough time wasted IMO ... Complete garbage. Really really disgraceful example of thick client software connected to a shabby thin client front end. Pot luck on getting a ticket you log on and keep your fingers crossed you've logged on at the right millisecond sounds about right. A complete shocker I just feel sorry for everyone who tried for tickets and got nothing and think of all those who tried for tickets and got loads. No balance in how it worked. I guess if people were organised were all on there while families working like maniacs logging on to get as many tickets as they could and they probably got plenty. As for my mate a single dad who works all day no where near a PC well he had no chance.... Genius system for the seller though. Lots of empty seats apparent every time I have a look at the gymnastics... How odd....

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can you post a pic of a typical window Chill? > Personally I wouldn't do it, I reckon it'll just > look like really badly painted uPVC windows... You could have a specialist painter marble them then they would look like they're made of marble, ,,,,, Lol

My sash windows are covered by net roller blind or Venetian blind 99% of the time. If they were wood they'd also be covered by roller or Venetian. And At night I don't look at them as I'm either asleep of they have curtains pulled across. Fact is who looks at their windows ? To most most people ... They're pretty much fit a forget... Or am I odd?

If you use a UPVC primer, you can then apply topcoats of traditional paint. Just google upvc primer. or try this . http://www.kolorbond.co.uk/index.html

Cheers I guess I am. I've owned maintained and repaired them for years on the various flats I've lived in (between work contracts) when I've had the time. The original Victorian ones are really very simple to repair in my last flat I removed an aluminium window which had been screwed into the old boxes. I had a couple of sliders made and glazed for ?80 and bought some parting bead sash cord etc and cobbled it all back together and painted them too lovely job as good as new and worked perfectly. In my current flat I could have done the same but I'm sick of DIY and painting so I just went with replacing the rubbish that was there with upvc at just under ?500 fitted great value and they look absolutely fine with all the benefits of double glazing a traditional look they were great value a lot less effort and less cost over rest of my life though I'm unlikely to be there for more than another 12 months. I've seen the expensive hard wood timber ones at ?2k and yes some are impressive but total over kill IMHO. If you've got a ?3mil house in Chelsea and money is no object then go for it. If you've got a ?250k flat in ED and you're earning just enough to pay the mortgage and one holiday a year then maybe not. Sometimes less is more ?sensible?. The new gen upvc sash look almost as good as the original timber ones At least we?re not talking about the crap casement upvc which is on almost every other house in ED. I?m not inclined to get sucked into unnecessary indulgence except where it comes to things which will make a real difference to my life and I don?t have money to throw away. It's just my opinion.

Best of luck.. 3 men 2 windows in one day you need it.