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KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Move. Giving this option very serious consideration. I have double glazing. All flights now appear to have been shifted into a narrow flight path over Forest Hill and the East Dulwich Dulwich Village area. It's a definite change which Heathrow has put in place since a test of early morning flights ended in March this year. They have moved the flights away from Vauxhaull further south. The view appears to be they want to reduce the issue to those who have had to bear with the nise for many years while the attempt to get the 3rd runway through. Moving away is looking like the only option and the noise is likely to increase over the next 5-10 years.

Years? This last few months is the first I've experienced the noise in my 40 year in the area I've never every previously been woken by aircraft noise.

I'm struggling to sleep with the constant drone of aircraft noise. This morning Sunday I've been awaken since 5am with the noise of jet aircraft. This is new having been away over the summer and working abroad on my return I'm finding I'm being woken up from around 5 am with the rumble and high pitched scream of jet engines overhead maybe they fly as low as low as 350 feet and are constant every few minutes there's a gap then the noise starts again only there's no concistency which makes it impossible to get used to it. At first I thought it was just me sleeping lightly but now I know it's a new phenomenon. These flights are all heading into heathrow having looked at the caa online flight viewer. It's constant and appears to be getting worst. I can't use ear plugs because of a sensitivity to ear infection so I'm up and about from around 6am which is becoming a problem and now I'm struggling with a lack of sleep even though I try to get to bed early there's a limit to how much that helps. The worst part is when I'm woken at 5am I seem to get anxiety chest pains until I get out of bed. My angry subconscious no doubt. The only equivalent I've had is when for work I've needed to stay at airport hotels and even that was better because the noise was constant. This is impossible to get use to. I've done a little research but can't find what has changed to make the flight path now constant above east dulwich, dulwich and forest hill. If this continues I think I'm going to move, it's unbearable and making my life a total misery...

Top end of lordship lane and I'm struggling with the constant drone of aircraft noise. This is new having been away over the summer and working abroad on my return I'm finding I'm being woken up from around 5 am with the rumble and high pitched scream of jet engines overhead maybe as low as 300 feet above and the are every 2 minutes. At first I thought it was just me sleeping lightly but now I know it's a new experience. What has changed to make the flight path now constant above east dulwich ?

From the planning portal makes a lot of sense and should help preserve high streets and business on those high street from the restrictive parking madness of the last 15 years. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Government urges more parking provision The Department for Communities and Local Government is set to publish new planning guidance calling for more town centre car parking provision. The department also wants to see less street clutter and fewer road humps. DCLG said the new planning guidance will push for more town centre parking spaces and propose measures to tackle the blight of ugly street clutter and aggressive ?anti-car? traffic calming measures like road humps. The new practice guidance, covering design, town centres and travel plans, will state that councils should understand the important role appropriate parking facilities can play in rejuvenating shops, high streets and town centres. It also sets out how town hall planning rules should not be used to tax drivers or justify development of crude traffic calming measures, such as poorly-sited bollards and road humps. The new government guidance is part of a new ?easy-to-use? online guide that replaces 7,000 pages of previous planning documents. It has been developed following an external review to make planning more accessible to councillors and local residents. Communities Secretary Eric Pickles said: ?Draconian town hall parking policies and street clutter can make driving into town centres unnecessarily stressful and actually create more congestion because of lack of places to park. Anti-car measures are driving motorists into the arms of internet retailers and out of town superstores, taking their custom with them.?

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Fazer71, > Since I've been a councillor May 2006 we now have > fractionally more parking around Lordsihp Lane > than we did before. James on Parking not sure if it's your ward Peckham Rye stretch between Scylla Rd and Nunhead Lane there are parking restrictions but also double yellow lines between those restrictions why looks a little over kill for weekend visits. Either single yellows but probably more parking spaces. A quite bizzare use of double yellow lines.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The > only real limit and cap on expanding car ownership > and use is the one where they become so much of an > arse to use that people just use them less. Blimey!! That?s already the Southwark policy. They put parking restrictions double yellow lines islands pavement piers jetties carbuncles along almost every Southwark road usually where they are not needed spending Millions of our tax payer pounds on rubbish all designed to reduce parking, and not one single pound adding parking. More than 1/2 the spaces on Lordship Lane have disappeared in the last 20 years. Every year Southwark has fewer and fewer parking spaces. If that?s not a policy of making car ownership an arse to use I don?t know what is. I?m a big fan of public transport but also a big fan of personal transport. Is there any investment in public transport South? Nope. but they are happy to spend millions on removing parking. Genius ! Southwark Canute holding back the sea of cars.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > fazer71 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > > Potentially valid points are not helped by > ludicrous crackpot analogies. Point taken, though I can't agree, little crackpot about them, actual no fiction there. You'll see more ludicrous crackpot reasoning for the restriction of parking, causing reduced use of public amenity for zero benefit. It's Potty UK Parking to match the Potholed UK roads an embarrassment comparable only to the undeveloped parts of the world. All caused by numpties who care only about chasing the next vote, and voters who care more about the nonsense numpties want them to consider rather than the real issues which improve our quality of life.

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not going to clog up this thread argueing with > you are you are clearly an obsessed with parking > to the extreme. People may want parkign near > Lordship lane and Peckham Rye but that is not the > same as need. Peckham Rye is a local park not a > tourist attraction therefore it is not > unreasonable to assume that the majoirty of the > users are very local and therefore can walk or use > public transport - the same goes for Lordship > lane. Try walking once in a while - you'll be > fitter, healthier and much calmer! :) Lack of Parking is a major cause of high street failure, and high street business failure it?s also a major reason beaches and other public spaces are not visited. I can easily walk to Lordship Lane and I do but if there was no parking LL would be dead with lots of empty shops and I?d be living in a far less vibrant place. We're lucky in ED other areas ?Penge Sydenham Streatham etc? are not so fortunate. The parking restrictions have killed the businesses in those areas the locals all end up in the local hyper / supermarkets with their easy parking. The only obsession here is with those who want to unreasonably restrict parking in the belief it?ll stop people using their cars. IT will not! Mr and Mrs Fatty with their 20 stone kids are not going to go and kick a ball around the park if they have to walk there, but they probably would if they could park their car. That?s logic for you. James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Fazer71, > What bit/s of the park do you think should be > tarmaced over? > > Colyton Road and Homestall Road have no parking > restrictions and immediately abutt Peckham Rye > Park. Many park there and walk through the park. > > I can't imagine that people wanting to go to a > park decide driving to Peckham Rye and parking > there is so painful that they'll drive past a > couple of dozen other similar parks to trave lto > Bluewater. James I don?t think tarmac is the answer probably better to have a grass block over flow car park or gravel about twice the size of the existing car park and only open it when needed in the summer and for events like the circus etc. Just needs a little practical thinking. I know that?s not easy as from our previous discussion on Trams over Trolleybuses you think digging up many miles of road to install tracks plus the overhead electric cables makes more sense than just installing the overhead cables. Colyton Road and Homestall Road have no spaces when there are events going on and the car park is full. Mr and Mrs Fatty with their 20 stone kids will do what ever is easiest and gets them out of the house on a Saturday if a drive to easy parking in Kent at Bluewater is easier than finding a parking space on Peckham Rye to kick a football around then they?ll make a day trip to Bluewater rather than Peckham Rye. I guess the other thing is cost to the council for extra cleaning and maintenance. Which may be the true reason for restriction of parking, less rubbish to clean from the Rye and easier and cheaper for one man in the cleaning truck to clean the roads? What annoys me is the pigheaded view that if parking is restricted it will some how magically make things BETTER when it has exactly the opposite affect it just makes life a poorer experience for everyone even those who don?t drive. Just look at Socialist Ken Livingstone?s Congestion Zone, it?s absolutely fantastic! I love it! Love it Love it. I often pay ?10 to drive into it and there are fewer cars and plenty of parking I can always find a pay by phone parking space at ?3.50 an hr it?s brilliant! Total genius it?s great for people with money. What about those Mr Livingstone is supposed to champion the poor F?all benefit to them, but I?m a big fan thanks Ken he was the ultimate Champaign socialista. Blimey I miss him. If he was in Southwark there?d be a nice big pay and display car park on the Rye.

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Umm yes soem people do - we walked/got the bus > with my Stepson most places when he was small as > we didn't and still don't have a car - we now have > a fit, active and independent teenager. > > I understand it is not always possible but using > small children as an excuse for travelly very > samll distances by car is pretty much rubbish i > think. However my main point was unlike > attractions such as the beach Peckham Rye park is > a very localised attraction so i stand by my point > that the majoirty of people who visit it will be > in walking or public transport distance. I'm nt a > driver so why should i have to lose some of my > local amenity to placate people who can't be > bothered to walk to the park - there should be > appropriate facilities for a limited amount of > parking, prioritising the disabled - that is it. - > it is a park not a car park Illogical lose some of your local amenity .... like you need all that space ... and there's not enough space to double the car park? Cyclemonkey it's quite obvious that to you a car park with 1 space on Peckham Rye would be 1 space too many.!

Umm yes Yada yada yada yada Who cares about walking everyone can walk or cycle of dance or skip or jump ..... What is wrong with you people this is about car parking. As the overwhelming majority of people families etc etc want to drive to the park the beach the open air pool the woods or the forest etc etc This is about CAR PARKING! This is a bonkers country car parking is totally over restricted. Look at Lordship Lane the traders are so frustrated they cut the parking signs from the polls so that their customers can park as the parking has been over restricted by the bus lane the islands which stick out at every street corner. What is wrong with you people .....? We need more parking around Peckham Rye and Peckham otherwise it'll remain a no go zone ghetto and it will not be used to its full potential.... Just as with the UK's beaches I went to Weston to see an old friend last week and we couldn't park near the front.... F"?ing INSANE!!! Peckham Rye isn't that bad but it's obviously NOT good is it otherwise people wouldn't be getting parking tickets for parking on a curb! I'm so lucky I don't live in this bonkers country 100% of my time. Bring on my next contract towards common sense.

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And whilst i appreciate it is not always an option > you could get some of your leisure/exercise by > walking to the park - i'd guess Peckham Rye park > is a facility mainly used by locals who live > within a couple of miles or less. I knew it?d only take a minute or two for that old argument. Yea right people more than 1 mile away are going to walk to the park with their little kids. I don?t think so. Point is there is insufficient parking those who are going to cycle would do that regardless of Parking. If they can?t park they?re going too got to Bluewater etc. I?ve seen it with my own eyes no car parking no people. Only a fool would say otherwise. Maybe it?s so the council don?t have to deal with the mess maybe it?s too unsightly seeing all those people on the Rye. I really can?t see the logic of having an open space with such heavily restricted car parking other than it suits the local council to have a few people using the open space as possible??? Edit to add You only need to google map the rye to see there is more than enough space to double the car park and retain much more open space than is ever used ! https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=peckham+rye&aq=f&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl Even Dulwich Park has 30% more parking and it's maybe 1/2 the size.

COMPLETE utter total nonsense! This is the misguided small-minded pathetic view of people who really should know better typically those who are supposed to help make the lives of the British public better, less frustrating, unreasonable and frustrating! French Public open Beaches are the same as ours and they have 5 X the parking. Many of their parks are 1/4 the size of ours yet they have 5 X the parking. Even in Italy Spain etc etc all have more parking for public use of leisure areas than we do in the UK. I've worked all over Europe as well as many other parts of the world and here in the UK parking is unreasonably restricted. You only need to go up to London and see wide side streets with double yellow lines for no purpose. If Peckham Rye was in a similar location in Paris it would have far more parking and apparently Paris is 1/2 the size of London. It?s all relative. Peckham Rye is HUGE!!!! With a tiny weenie car park. Which results in the tax payer NOT being able to use the open space they own as they should. If say the carpark was doubled in size there would still be a massive area for recreational use. Your logic and your spatial awareness are flawed. Brockwell Park has similarly pathetic parking allowance. As I said Parking in the UK is a complete Joke.

Peckham Rye and Straker's Road Another example of all that is WRONG in this country with public space leisure areas and parking or rather the LACK of parking. Go to France and there is sufficient parking Le Touquet and all the beaches along that stretch they don?t impose ridiculous parking restrictions they give adequate parking at a price or often free on many of their beaches areas as they also do with parks and running tracks often they are a quarter the size in comparable areas with the UK but give a multiple of the parking available in the UK! Here in the Great Britain try going to a park of a beach it?s a total parking nightmare for NO apparent reason! Go to Camber Sands Brighton or Weston Super Nightmare etc etc It?s all organised to cause frustration and generate revenue ?. Or is it some plan to stop the public using these leisure areas? Or just there to drive the British population to distraction. There?s one thing for sure it does not restrict the use of cars it just make people spend their time in out of town shopping centres rather than on the beach or in a park with their family. James maybe not a vote winner but the parking on and around Peckham Rye is just another UK parking joke!

Callie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We need a Garden Centre! I really miss not having > one now :( There's plant nation upland road.

James Thank you.

James Thanks for the info. Wow ?277,000 to in electricity and gas a year, we tax payers are paying for. Sounds very dodgy to me, typical of state run organisations. Is there a way to check this with meter readings and a little investigation are there no systems in place? That equates to heating around 150-200 houses quite bonkers.

The Lordship lane police station appears to be a complete waste of prime real estate just another maintenance and energy burden on the local tax payer. I though the local police were already all based in Peckham? Rationalisation and they?ll need to step in line with the real world ?.. After all this isn?t Cyprus or some 3rd world African police state.

Hi James I'll have a go next time I go past. Many of the puddles are are caused by slabs which have sunk over time below the level of the curb, looks like poor quality job to me. Cheers

James Not sure if this has been brought to your attention before but on Lordship Lane all the pavements have parts which now puddle quite badly in places. It's particularly deep in patches between the Police station and Calloway Locks. Any chance of getting the contractors back do the job properly ?

Edit woops wrong thread ...

Sounds like you need to pay for some legal advice or move.

As it is your hedge then it would be considered criminal damage. See here for similar experience and options. http://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13765 Just noted you're a tenant, might be a job for your landlord.

Mabel2001 Is it your hedge? FYI If it's a hedge it doesn't need permission to be trimmed or cut down. Only trees which have more than a certain dimension at 2m need permission.

A GOOD CLEAN ..... I was in Dalston yesterday and it's high street was much cleaner than LL YES DALSTON !