I have "no moral code" because I'm okay with Cafe Nero flouting a planning law? Good grief... Actually I do think it's a bit rubbish they did that. Maybe they could pay a fine for it which could be put back into the community? Or even better, maybe there could be some kind of two-tier rent system whereby places like Nero help to subsidise independents whereby both can flourish side-by-side? Besides which, you have to ask what exatly we are protecting with these silly planning laws. Are we trying to safeguard the old Norwood High street style ED? In which case, let's get rid of the laws... Oops, forgot to reply to this: >>How can an indie compete with a chain that has the resources to open up without full planning permission? Look around you! The indies are doing very well thanks very much! Despite some wobbly service and general ineptitude.