Otta

So they're all rude bastards!

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...to be honest I'm as bored of Richard Dawkins et > al as I am of Archbishop Runcie. EXACTLY!!! Live and let live.

That's exactly it.

Not quite sure how you can compare the two, but there you go. I'm going to say this one last time. IF Suarez intended racism against Evra, then he deserved his ban. But I don't think it has ever been proven that he did. Liverpool have been very loyal to their player, and he threw it back at them by not shaking Evra's hand. That was stupid. However, he will spend the rest of his life labelled as a racist by people like you, and that can't be a very nice feeling. So, if he believes that Evra lied, and is responsible for that, you can kind of see how he wouldn't want to shake the man's hand. I've never exactly defended him, I've just said that no one knows for sure what happened, and he could be innocent. You immediately decided he was guilty, but have never been able to show any proof. Either way, sitting and watching a manager's interview over 20 times is just weird.

And to think you called ME a loser!

Exactly.

Behold the Darkness (Medwyn Goodall)

He'll go.

Exactly right AM. But I doubt you'll get an apology from UDT.

UDT doesn't understand satire.

Naked coke man,circa 2003/04. Classic!

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well his manager said he shouldn't have, but > you > > know best UDT. > > > > Agree the whole sorry saga hasn't done > Liverpool > > any favours. > > > > The club and match going fans seem to be > convinced > > that they're in the right though. > > Alex Ferguson branded Suarez a disgrace. Yes he did. And he said Evra shouldn't have celebrated like that, which is the point I made. Keep up.

Well his manager said he shouldn't have, but you know best UDT. Agree the whole sorry saga hasn't done Liverpool any favours. The club and match going fans seem to be convinced that they're in the right though.

Better from Kenny here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16996724

Perhaps not shaking his hand was wrong, but if anything was going to "cause a riot", surely it was this http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16998363 But yes, that video of Kenny Dalglish is embarrassing.

That's where I said you had a point, but I don't think he can be blamed for the lack of a handshake, and I hope that he'll have words, even if he does try and put a positive spin on it to the press. I also hope his team mates will tell Suarez it was a bad move.

Suarez is an adult. Surely his actions are down to him. I know you like to have a dig at Dalglish, and to be fair, you have a point, but what Suarez does on the pitch is down to Suarez.

Suarez not shaking Evra's hand is bloody stupid! Not only is it dragging this whole nonsense even further, but it's probably fired up United that bit more. Error Luis! You're fast losing any sympathy you may have had left.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where do we start? > > Even on a simple level if we are going to listen, > shouldn't we believe in God's teaching not the > 'church'? - that's the whole problem with the > catholic church...you're meant to listen to 'it' > not 'god' They believe that when the pope sits on the papal throne, he is speaking on God's behalf, delivering his message so to speak.

We are the lizards mods

"UDT KNOWS"

I don't work in the NHS, and I would agree there have been great improvements over the last decade. HOWEVER, I would argue strongly that these are nothing to do with PIs, and I suspect if you ask most staff, from consultant, to secretary, to hospital porter, they would tell you that PIs have been a hinderence. I work across social care and education, and I admit, I can be a right lazy git at times. However, I have worked with lots and lots of very hard working, and dedicated people, from OTs, to Social Workers, to managers, to teachers, top nursery nurses, and I can assure you, the vast majority of them would tell you what I am telling you when it comes to Performance Indicators.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Catholics don?t really practice any of the stuff > the church says anyway. Particularly the no birth > control thing. We just don?t mention it when the > priest is around. Just like you don?t tell your > granny when you?ve been smoking crack. It?s a bit > like all that believing in god business. Unfortunately, in a lot of poor countries, they do practise it, and it's a bloody disaster!

I totally agree with the last few posts, but I really really want to care about England again.