Otta

Personally, I never knew prayers were held before meetings, I've certainly never come across it, and if I did, I'd find it all very strange, and wouldn't join in. What I find bizarre though is that someone was wound up enough by it, to bother going to court. I also find it weird that people actually spend their time in basically anti religion organisations. What exactly is the point? You're quite right SJ, that people could have a prayer before the meeting if they felt the need. Equally though, those who don't like it, could just ignore it. Finally, the UK is a Christian country. The monarchy, and indeed the church, may seem irrelevant these days, but at the end of the day, like it or not we still have a Queen who is boss, and head of the CofE. Our national anthem is GOD save the queen. I personally don't think religion should be anywhere near politics, but it is.

I was just taking the Mick out of BNG's post,.

Yeah Quids, you must not mention anyone not expressly mentioned in either a thread title, or the OP.

Liverpool / Suarez response / apology. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17004667 R_D, I believe that's known as the Vinny Jones school of handshakes.

So they're all rude bastards!

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...to be honest I'm as bored of Richard Dawkins et > al as I am of Archbishop Runcie. EXACTLY!!! Live and let live.

That's exactly it.

Not quite sure how you can compare the two, but there you go. I'm going to say this one last time. IF Suarez intended racism against Evra, then he deserved his ban. But I don't think it has ever been proven that he did. Liverpool have been very loyal to their player, and he threw it back at them by not shaking Evra's hand. That was stupid. However, he will spend the rest of his life labelled as a racist by people like you, and that can't be a very nice feeling. So, if he believes that Evra lied, and is responsible for that, you can kind of see how he wouldn't want to shake the man's hand. I've never exactly defended him, I've just said that no one knows for sure what happened, and he could be innocent. You immediately decided he was guilty, but have never been able to show any proof. Either way, sitting and watching a manager's interview over 20 times is just weird.

And to think you called ME a loser!

Exactly.

Behold the Darkness (Medwyn Goodall)

He'll go.

Exactly right AM. But I doubt you'll get an apology from UDT.

UDT doesn't understand satire.

Naked coke man,circa 2003/04. Classic!

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well his manager said he shouldn't have, but > you > > know best UDT. > > > > Agree the whole sorry saga hasn't done > Liverpool > > any favours. > > > > The club and match going fans seem to be > convinced > > that they're in the right though. > > Alex Ferguson branded Suarez a disgrace. Yes he did. And he said Evra shouldn't have celebrated like that, which is the point I made. Keep up.

Well his manager said he shouldn't have, but you know best UDT. Agree the whole sorry saga hasn't done Liverpool any favours. The club and match going fans seem to be convinced that they're in the right though.

Better from Kenny here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16996724

Perhaps not shaking his hand was wrong, but if anything was going to "cause a riot", surely it was this http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16998363 But yes, that video of Kenny Dalglish is embarrassing.

That's where I said you had a point, but I don't think he can be blamed for the lack of a handshake, and I hope that he'll have words, even if he does try and put a positive spin on it to the press. I also hope his team mates will tell Suarez it was a bad move.

Suarez is an adult. Surely his actions are down to him. I know you like to have a dig at Dalglish, and to be fair, you have a point, but what Suarez does on the pitch is down to Suarez.

Suarez not shaking Evra's hand is bloody stupid! Not only is it dragging this whole nonsense even further, but it's probably fired up United that bit more. Error Luis! You're fast losing any sympathy you may have had left.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where do we start? > > Even on a simple level if we are going to listen, > shouldn't we believe in God's teaching not the > 'church'? - that's the whole problem with the > catholic church...you're meant to listen to 'it' > not 'god' They believe that when the pope sits on the papal throne, he is speaking on God's behalf, delivering his message so to speak.

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