Otta

With the December "attempt" it was very easy to see that it was possible it was nothing of the sort (none of us know for sure either way). This one does sound more worrying to me.

It will achieve nothing, and I think Mick Mack is making mischief (try saying that after 10 pints of Guinness). ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whilst not denying the prejudice, discrimination > and near apartheid put upon the Catholics of NI by > the Unionist Govt tin Ulster and shockingly > ignored by the British government prior to The > Troubles, I can't help feeling that if there been > more people like Hulme and less like McGuinness > and Paisley - thousands more people wouldn't have > had their lives ended or wrecked. > > Mick I really think you need to look up the > meaning of Genocide up before you use it so > loosely too.... And ^^^ This At the end of the day, he might have come to the peace table, but only after destroying many a life. I am reading countless "thoughts are with his family" posts from all sorts of people. But he went to his grave "proud" of what he did with the IRA, and offered no apologies to the families he destroyed. None of that is excusing the actions of the British back in the day (although Mick Mack's "for many British people it's hard to face up to the realities" type comment is unhelpful. I wouldn't expect a German to apologise / feel guilt or "face up to" the actions of Hitler, because it was absolutely nothing to do with them), but when you've as much blood on your hands as McGuinness, it's difficult to excuse that and simply praise him as the peacemaker.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The trouble with the 'G' word is, it wipes the slate clean for longstanding > neighbourhoods and it's almost as if this place > didn't exist before the populace changed. It's > quite upsetting tbh. Well said. And possibly your most honest post in 10 years ;-) I live in Penge now, and it's still a little bit rough around the edges, and it reminds me of ED in the 90s. (Rough around the edges, is not "rough"). But gentrification definitely more than creeping in.

Elphinstone's Army Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Elphinstone's Army Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > East Dulwich has made itself what it is.. > years > > > ago it was a well dodgy area and pubs you > would > > > avoid, as described by > > > locals here most descriptively. > > > That image has long been discarded. > > > > > > > > This is bullshit - the painting of East Dulwich > as > > some inner city hellhole and Dickensian rookery > > before gentrification is enough to make me join > > Louisa's corner > > > suit yourself - years ago I knew someone who > worked on Railton Road and would only come to LL > with 'one of the lads' > > I don't think it's bs and I don't appreciate your > hostile tone > > Besides which I did not paint LL in the terms you > describe, as an inner city hellhole what nonsense, > join Louisa's corner, and anyone else who > lived/worked/loved here during the seventies. > > and do not be using Louisa as a prop I was born and grew up in East Dulwich, and can confirm that whilst it wasn't the (dull) ED of today, it was never particularly rough. The Mag (as Steveo says) was the pub my old man told me to avoid, but ED was never a rough area.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Also the constant stop-start movement (and > frequent poor driving) makes me feel sick, and > certainly rules out book/kindle/phone/tablet. That's a fair point, the start/stop, jerking motion can make me feel pretty queasey, and I curse the drivers sometimes. 176 seems particularly bad for this for some reason.

Will be interesting to see whether he tries to put the boot in to May though...

What's a local person? If someone moves in then die the following year are they more deserving than someone that lived there all their life until moving away for the last year or two (but they want to be buried back home in their area)? It's like school places!

My father in law recently did some research in to this as he wanted to do something for my daughters. He settled on this as the best bet for the time being. https://www.nsandi.com/childrens-bonds

I walk my kids 1.2 miles to school in the morning. That takes us about 20 - 25 minutes. If I was alone I'd do it a lot quicker, but I still think we walk at a good pace.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I walk home (from Liverpool Street to Crystal > Palace Road = 5.1 miles) occasionally and it takes > me 1hr 20 mins. Fair enough. Then I would suggest you're a faster than average walker. I think I probably am too, but I still think 20 minutes per mile is a reasonable average.

fruityloops Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It;s there. Just not as cracking as it used to be. Same can be said for Soho. That's progress apparently. My issue is just the bandwagon jumping and less than honest claims being made.

Why should they retract? In the specific set of circumstances described it seems pretty clear that the cyclist was acting dangerously.

If they send any description of man or car, please share.

These people enjoy their walks. They feel that their walks will be less pleasant once work is done. That is all that this has ever been about. They will clutch at any straw they think might help their cause, but they couldn't really give a shit about birds or dead soldiers, just their walks. Very selfish bunch.

Yeah, I never understand why people moan so much about sitting on a bus. For me it's my reading time. Headphones in, world around me blocked out for a blissful while. That's something I actually miss now I am walking in the mornings, but I also enjoy the walk and it gives me some exercise which is good because fitting the gym in can prove difficult. But it means I am reading less. RE Walking speed. I am a fast walker, but I think 20 minutes per mile is a reasonable standard, and definitely not "grandpa" speed. I used to enjoy cycling (many moons ago), but I just wouldn't feel safe doing it now (largely due to my less than perfect eye sight).

geobz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JohnL Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > 1 Hour isn't good - we should be talking > 30-40 > > > minutes.:) > > > > > > Did you know that government guidelines on best > > practice say that children up to the age of 8 > > (with special educational needs) shouldn't have > > school journeys lasting more than 45 minutes. > Over > > 8s it's an hour. These guidelines have been > around > > forever (well decades). > > > > So I think an hour to work is perfectly > acceptable > > for a working adult :) > > > The issue is that your not an hour away from the > City. The transportation links are poor. > > I often walk from ED to Oxford Street, doesn't > take me more than 1h20m to get there. > > So yes I think a bus that does 1hour against > walking 1hour and 20 minutes is an issue. > > And southern isn't running most of the time, and > the timeschedules are way off... you don't get > trains every 10 minutes anymore apart from > 8:10,20,30, everything else is every 20-30 > minutes... thats awful and it feels like you are > living out of town. Also on weekends you get > reduced services and Sundays you'll barely find > the station open. > > Commuting from ED is BAD! Stop trying to convince > yourself that its alright. I'm not trying to convince myself of anything, I live somewhere with surprisingly great transport links (Penge). But I also recognise that I live in a city, and that roads are busy. I walk to work these days and usually take over 2 or 3 buses along the busy route. The trains need sorting out. How Southern and co can run these awful services and yet continue to be awarded contracts, beggars belief. But that is far from exclusive to ED. Buses have always been busy, and routes in to the city have always been busy. So you have the choice of walk, cycle, or allow time for the bus. This whole "I live in zone 2 so I should be entitled to get to work quickly" is a nonsense. Oh, and just for the record ED Station is only just zone 2. Back when zones counted for buses, zone 2 ended at the goose green roundabout, anything south of there (ie most of East Dulwich) was always zone 3.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1 Hour isn't good - we should be talking 30-40 > minutes.:) Did you know that government guidelines on best practice say that children up to the age of 8 (with special educational needs) shouldn't have school journeys lasting more than 45 minutes. Over 8s it's an hour. These guidelines have been around forever (well decades). So I think an hour to work is perfectly acceptable for a working adult :)

The thread that just keeps giving.

bobbsy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All the hoo-ha about adult social care costs is, > in my opinion, a cover to try to plug the local > government [rension deficits. Absolute nonsense. Not saying there isn't an issue with pensions, but social care is funded differently. The "Hoo-Ha" is about the cost of services, not staffing. Although staffing is also under pressure. Again, I am not dismissing your pensions point. But don't compare it to the social care crisis (and yes it is that). Two very different things. See also education.

Stranger things is brilliant, but I can't help but feel that it's appeal may be lessened if you're not a child of the late 70s/80s.

I'd love them to get a newsnight interview, it would be hilarious. I like that they are suddenly pretending to care about war graves. Hadn't been keeping up with this at all. Nice to see it's still as batshit crazy as ever.

I'd say the main reason schools want rid of LA's is so they can cherry pick their own admissions. Lot's of LAs are putting CT up 4.00% (maximum allowed without consultation). This after trying toi keep them more or less level for a number of years. In my opinion they should have put them up a bit way before now. I don't think people really appreciate just how little money there is for LAs to provide services with. And as for non statutory services (which are very often the most valuable to service users), forget it.

There are established communities and tax payers all around OKR. To read this you'd thinknot was completely uninhabited. I get that you'd have liked to to Camberwell, but this thread is just sour grapes. Plus anyone arguing that Peckham isn't well served by trains are crazy imo.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting. I'm not sure of my view on this. As > long as they're being given space in the new place > at the same sort of rents, then I don't think any > individual shop should be allowed to stand in the > way of a redevelopment which benefits the wider > community. That said, what are the chances they > actually end up setting up business elsewhere / > get moved out - pretty high I'd guess. If they were being offered the same sized units for the same rent, then fine. Suspect they won't be though. Remember chatting to a guy in one of the guitar shops on Denmark Street, Soho a year or two back. He was saying they were all being promised their units for the same rent, but it actually turned out they'd lose half their space, and it was totally unworkable. Different kind of business I know, but this made me think of that conversation.

Haha, God loves a trier.