therein lies the rub Atticus - you wouldn't be comfortable, and you have said so Equally you have enough nous to read what you have read and see that it isn't all gold ergo, it's highly unlikely anyone is going to start a thread about you, because you aren't acting like an eejit But UDT is very aggressive in his/her general tone - he/she is an aggressor, not a victim bringing up "banter" is interesting, recalling as it does Keys and Gray. They too claimed they were bullied and victimised after being sacked, but it was their own behaviour wot done it