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SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Nope, words fail me on this one > > > Don't?? As in "thou shalt not"? Am I being > commanded? Bizzy I'm not denying you your beliefs. > Have them. May they serve you well. But don't > assume you are immune from criticism for holding > them. You can't command respect. Respect is > earned. You have feelings, I get it. I have no > innate wish to hurt those feelings. I don't know > you from Ad.. well anyone. But as long as you > proclaim your beliefs I have the exact same right > to repudiate them. And I don't command anyone to > respect me for it. People can dislike me as they > wish.. > > > > how and when did I do this? I have been to a few > fire and brimstone sermons, but most of the ones I > have heard are just dull repetitious "be nice to > one another" stuff. Nothing wrong with that is > there? I just don't need to go to mass to hear it. > I Already Get It > > > > Not really. Y'all read from the same book. > Interpret it differently maybe but a "common > belief system" it surely is > > > > Sounds like the dictionary definition of unhappy > to me. But again, if you are happier now, good for > you. But your chosen belief system, just because > it makes you happy, ain't necessarily true > > > > I'm REQUIRED to have a theory? Well if someone > said a giant turtle wandered past the planet earth > and dropped a few passengers and we went from > there.. it's a theory I guess. I could ascribe to > it. But why would I? I'd rather go "gee I dunno. > and I don't much care". Biology and evolution is > so infinitely fascinating and wonderful and > amazing.. it doesn't NEED an explanation. It just > is... > > > You think I'm punishing you?? Disagreement = > punishment?? I admire your restraint Mr Sean It does indeed show tolerance that we debate this subject to such lengths and rarely get infuraited with the absurdity of it all. I cant think of any other subject where the purveyors of such ill founded nonsense get treated with such kindness and handled with kid gloves.

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > indiepanda Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > snorky Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Why does the Pope still force followers of > his > > > brand of religion to live shitty, poverty > > ridden > > > lives , banging out kids every year or so , > cos > > > they cant use decent contraception - is this > > the > > > same god ? > > > > I am no great fan of the catholic church having > > been raised a catholic, but this is a bit > > overstated. > > it's offensive and probably intended to be so > > i've never really understood why people are so > comfortable insulting the catholic community really ?

When I have a spare hour, I treat myself to a stationary non sales event at R*ylon. I enter, wait around for 15 minutes until someone appears , then have the audacity to ask for soemthing I can see on display, usually to be told they dont have it. Then I peruse the pens, select a nice one and ask if I can test it How we laugh as I am bundled out of the door

Ob lifts restrictions on overseas abortion funding A good start, even snorky arch cynic goes along with this one Keep it up - I would love to have to retract my sour views, really

Bizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just had to google Peter Sutcliffe as I didn't > know who he was. > > I can confirm it wasn't my God that gave him that > personal message. > > So you do believe God made you? Good start. Which God was it then ? there seems to be a few obviously - I dont want to waste my time worshipping false Idols and all that shit - I'm a busy man Are Hindus godless cos they dont worship your proper authentic God ? does that mean that 10% of the worlds populace may be screwed come decision day, just cos they made the wrong choice of God, yet may have lived decent lives ? Should I ask Jesus for forgiveness on my death bed, I will be granted a free pass into Heaven apparently - so why bother spending all your life worshipping him,we hen a few quite morphine clouded seconds at the end of your hedonistic is all that you need? why does god let babies die or allow disease & injury to maim & disable children who have done no wrong ? Why does the Pope still force followers of his brand of religion to live shitty, poverty ridden lives , banging out kids every year or so , cos they cant use decent contraception - is this the same god ? are catholcis wrong ? will catholics go to heaven , even though they seem to have got it all wrong ? Questions , Questions

rubbish - never heard of peter sutcliffe?!

Bizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Snorky - why so aggressive? > God me aggressive - remember, he made us all, in 6 days no less. BTW, peter Sutcliffe beleived that God told him to personally cleanse the streets of Prostitutes- was that your God or another one ?

If you get comfort form it, then get on with it - my HUGE beef is that we bother to give this particular compilation of unsubstantiated myth, parables and folkelore some kind of status that is patently isnt - like all other religious texts, its a mishmash of rules & regulations to keep people in line and ensure that someones particular brand of society retained some continuity to argue that these awful, turgid, amended and misinterpreted pile of shite compiliations are something special is shopwing that many many people tryly have difficulty segregating life and prefabricated bollcks All religion keeps you down, its makes to toe the line, it ensures generations of unthinking slavery and obedience - it is shite There - no more pussyfooting around, no dancing around the subject any longer - no more tolerance of this nasty, sneering underhand , pervasive and accepted version of mass oppression. *** last segment of bile has been EDITED***

Bizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not to put any Atheist?s off but - > > # - It is hard to understand the Bible when you > haven?t accepted Jesus as your savior. Before > becoming a Christian and truly understanding what > it meant to be a Christian, I could debate all day > about different meanings you could glean from the > Bible. In my youth, my main aim for joining the > Christian student union was to meet the student > nurses that ran the weekly sessions. That was my > first mistake as I wasn't sincere about finding > out the truth and I was constantly looking for > counter arguments and *trying* to pull. During my > time at college, I was amazed at how peaceful and > controlled some of the people at the union were, > even with some really nasty experiences they were > going through in their lives. I saw this and > thought, I want whatever they?re having? > > # - Hillsong - Yes, they seem well off and it > seems like a big aerobics event but they are > spreading the word to a younger generation and > seem to be saving a lot of people by doing > something different. Like most denominations, you > can't fault their main intentions. You can still help you fellow man without subscribing to some variation of Judeao-Christian-Islam-Buddism-Pagan hocus pocus bollocks Me ? I try to help out where I can, but as I havent accepted Jesus , then Im off to hell - to sit with Elvis, Steve Mcqueen, Jimi hendrix , Bon Scott and Kurt Kobain, doing drugs , drinking and running amok Im sure you will be happy sitting on a cloud quietly chatting to Mother Theresa and the virgin mary & singing hymns for all eternity

LegalEagle-ish Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I became a Christian about 2001 and have done > various bible study courses and stuff since then. > > I decided to give the 10 week Alpha course a go > last night at All Saints church and my first > session was last night. > > It was brilliant. > > It wasn't soppy or about trusting fairh, it gave > loads historical evidence to back up the existance > of Jesus and was really interesting. > > I am quite a sceptical, cynical even, type of > person and all the questions I had plus way more > were explored and satisfactory answers given. > > I challange any athiest or agnostic to complete > the Alpha course and not change their thinking. > > Here is a link to the National Alpha website. > > edited for spelling You should have edited the whole thing to remove links to the Alpha course IMHO of course

Oh dear.what a startling post. Beaberry is crap, even at 50% off - and Yes, I have been and experienced their French/pacific rim fusion horrors ( i.e. wasbai in everything ) Um

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SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes optimism is overly-indulged by the media at > the moment, but being realistic, who else would we > have entering office at the moment? > > snorky is of the opinion that it doesn't matter > who is elected as the whole system is so rotten we > need some kind of anarchic revolution. Maybe we > do, maybe we don't.. but I have yet to meet anyone > I would follow on such a course ("no dude you > totally miss the point, there will be no leaders > and we will all be...." yeah yeah yeah - I'm no > longer 14 and suceptible to that line) > > If we are not so binary as to think > Bush=bad/Obama=good and realise that genuine > progress happens over time, not weeks and there > will be all manner of pitfalls along the way, as > things stand I can't think of anyone I would > rather take office in america at this point in > time I think you do me a disservice - though I may trot ( ha) out the usual Anarcho-Syndicalist lines sometimes, I do actually have a grasp ( and degrees in )US Politics - hes still a puppet , just different people pulling ther strings - in the 2 party system, you cant be anything bust a likelable puppet, albeit with a personality sometimes With the Bush pair, you knew what you were getting and it wasnt a surprise - just wait til Obama messes this up and Jeb Bush parachutes in to rescue the Presidency - hes smarter than his dad & bro put together Change ? No-Change should have been his byline - I have nothing against the fellow and would sooner see him that Another Bush, but thats like saying your favorite serial killer is Dennis Nielsen over Peter Sutcliffe - hardly a choice at all

Arsey people have beef with Better armed arsey people over a miserable piece of land that seems to have some history for various mickey mouse religions

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There's so much misinformationand misunderstanding > flying round I actually don't know where to begin, > and frankly shouldn't be bothered. > > MP you're lovely but you may want to read a bit > more about the birth of Israel, it has very little > to do with the holocaust at all. And Hamas is > fighting for an honorable settlement and have > placed pre 67 borders and recognition of Israel on > the table a number of times. Israel want surrender > as a precondition to negotiations; that wouldn't > have gone far with the IRA, why does anyone think > Hamas will (hmm, perhaps because the PLO did once > they were corrupt enough to stop caring) and so it > will continmue again. > > TLS, why the arbitrary 300, why not 900, or 50? > Some credit goes to Tony but he really just gave > it that final nudge after a couple of stalls from > a lot of others' hard work. > He is pushing an entirely Israeli/US agenda in his > current role and will achieve nothing. > > DFP, hilarious. Hamas kill 13 people and they're > genocidal. And islamofascism is a nonsense made-up > word beloved of Bush, I rest my case. I could have responsed in this manner, but I dont have the patience or the eloquence today

You have been well & truly mugged people. Of course I cant say that in public as Obama is the new Messiah & I dont want to be charged with heresy. There are some intellegent people on this forum - I am surprised at you.

"which local businessman is most likely to drag in a solicitor and threaten legal action if you dare critisise his products, attitude or service ? " "favorite mass muderer ?"

adverts - selling you hope, shite you dont need and creating demand for toss that is already obselete by the time its delivered. saying that, there are some good images & ideas - just a shame that the people who obviously have such talent have to whore themselves to the great god of consumption

EHughes Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Regional Forum template: > > We are making a brand new documentary series > looking at Brits who buck the trend of our > reserved nation and who aren?t afraid to complain, > speak their mind or be tough with staff. This > series promises to be a light hearted celebration > of some of the boldest and most outspoken people > in Britain today. > > Are you or your boss a self styled Gordon Ramsay? > Do you work in a stressful environment and have to > raise your voice daily? Are you tired of > incompetent staff and do you have a zero tolerance > attitude toward them? Perhaps you run your own > business or manage other people and will put up > with nothing but the best? > > Or are you a stickler for good service? Do you > think the customer is always right? Do you always > have something to say if the service is not up to > scratch? Do you find yourself having to complain > on a regular basis in shops, supermarkets, > restaurants or on the phone? > > Are you fed up with other incompetent drivers? Are > you known for your aggressive tactics on the road? > Do you ever find yourself getting into disputes > with other drivers because of it? > > If any of the above sounds like you or anyone you > know we would love to hear from you for this > exciting new documentary series for a major > broadcaster. > > Please contact us at [email protected] or ring > 0207 033 2315 and leave your name and contact > details and we will get straight back to you. IM pretty outspoken you lazy unoriginal parasite scum vermin shitehawks

philip-walker.com Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think, if it is taxed, and hasn't been stolen > then it is legally parked and has every right to > park there? yup

I think the ED filth have more to do with their time than chase down people who posted off the cuff remarks in an internet forum about hotwiring cars.

No one bothered about Milwalls recent run ? TSk TSk TSk - though I should have expected it from ED glory Hunters So you will all be supporting Man City in a couple of years I would think

I Lived it. the horror ,the horror ( 1.5 feet of localised water was hardly of Biblical proportions )

People still seem to think that this Obama fellow is the new messiah it would seem He has stated that there will be continued funding & support for Israel already, as part of his campaign- he wont upset the Christian bloc who are rubbing their hands with glee as the Middle East ratchets up and the Final battle edges ever closer and they can experience the rapture ( read up on it ) But hes Black and was Poor I hear you say.....he is and he was obviously, but he still took the same route of lawyer/ Ivy League etc that is usual for presidents - hes hardly Eugene feckin Debs is he ? Read my lips - nothing will change - another production line politician with a USP - dont believe the hype as popular rap combo and all round entertainers Public Enemy said

scaffold bar + screwdrive + mole grips hotwiring is something you only see in 'Merican thrillers really let the muthers tyres down ( by using the valve , not with a knife ) and see if anyone responds/ repairs - if not, report it as abandoned