Nope, been to Singapore, and it's too hot. I just like people who treat others well. If that means that they also obey laws then all the better. Civility is declining, and it is precisely that which makes like more stressful. Do you like it when you see people drop litter on the bus? When they instinctively put their shoes on the seats on trains or the bus? When they push in front of you because they can't be bothered to join the queue? Do you think that these things don't shriek of 'sod you, I don't care that others are around, I'm going to do as I please (maybe because I have little control over parts of my life so I rebel in this way)'? Those things stress me out much more than my job or foreign travel or being late for an appointment. I don't want to criminalise anyone, but I do want respect (and not the bling version of it, which translates to 'fear me, or I'll do you in') and common courtesy. Now, was that milk or lemon Mr/s Frisco? Nero