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When I think back to the old days the one that always staggers me is Sunday lunchtimes 12-2 only! Had some great 2 hours sessions mind you.

Labour dynasties.....Kinnock-Mandleson-Prescott-Corbyn...anymore? + add Straw et al in related think tank/pressure groups and Mrs Kinnock in the EU Commissioners free ride (RIP) at least they've now only one household with 2 MPs in it (Domey/Harman) since Balls went Jobs & gold plated pensions for life in the good old old boys/keep it in the family network that is the Labour Party... "Fight the rigged, privileged Tory system" lol Hypocrites

steveo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This one will have you rolling in your aisle > Quids > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39659304 Yes I've seen it, laughable - is she in the Shadow Cabinet? - I even saw a terrible tweet from Clive Lewis this morning, who people talk about as a saviour of the party. I've voted Labour 4 times in elections - i can't see me ever going back. They are useless and hopeless. Not saying the Tories and SDP are great but they are miles ahead of the shambles that is Labour nowadays.

terrible news - good player and a great bloke apparently. Only 44 :(

Labour's campaign so far under is preaching to an ever dwindling pool converted. Maybe the Manifesto will change that but I doubt it. Eg LET'S focus on: the NHS - remember in Copeland hospital was closing and the Tories STILL won that bi-election. Many people not in the Echo chamber see a crisis coming in the NHS but don't see the reasons as necessarily (and certainly not soley) being a lack investment; some see it as a result of immigration (not me but many) some people see it as catastrophically inefficient and in need of massive reform (me)...many don't blame this on the Tories. I don't think this has the anti-tory legs that the left think On the economy they (him and McDonnell) now sound terrible with ridiculous wealth and big business bashing and tap turning on unsustainable spending promises - don't they realise how many of us actually work for big business? How much tax it generates? I think even some of the banker bashers realise this now, yu can'y have decent public services without wealth creation and big business employees (Brexit has focussed this). I'm personally genuienly believe a Labour Govt under Corbyn would bankrupt us quicker than you can say 'Turn on the printing presses" as big companies moved out; tax take dropped and him and McD went on spending spree. Finally the dossier of idiotic quotes from Corbyn and his various lieutenants pasts the Tory's have ready to dump on him is immense - they've not even started on this. He can't escape his ridiculous student politics stuck in the 70s - his west hating ideology; his cosying up to terrorists - nor should he be allowed too and this will start dripping out anytime soon. He's not fit to get anywhere near 10 Downing Street and I think the majority of the public realise that - i certainly hope so or we are really fecked. He really is a thick (and slightly passive aggressive) bloke who hasn't had an original idea since the 80s who somehow unbelievably is heading up what was a great and important political party at a time when in all honest the tories would normally be preparing for a huge kicking! Ominously for Labour they lost a local govt seat in Harrow to the Tories on an 8% swing last night - ok very small beer but still. Or do you want to know what i really think?

Most of the Labour MPs standing down are decent ones and meanwhile the rumours (Telegraph) are Corbyn's son is going to be given a safe seat! If true, so much for fighting against a rigged system and elites and the other Spartist student nonsense he was spouting this morning!

People who move near a pub and then moan about the noise make me puke - i love pubs but personally I wouldn't move near one - if you do then that's your choice

P.O.U.S.theWonderCat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Farron has categorically stated that he doesn't > think homosexuality is evil. He also voted for > gay marriage. This whole line of questioning is a > Tory tactic to attempt to undermine what they > clearly regard as a threat to the landslide they > want. > > And, I should say for the record, I am not a > Tory-basher - I don't believe in political > partisanship. Oh is that right? You clearly mean the well planned Tory tactic been executed by those well know tory attack dogs - Owen Jones and John McDonnell and various other lefty lovies...but blame the tories eh, how very unpartisan ship of you......

The Farron thing makes me laugh...to quote someone on Twitter.. "Tim Farron hasn't ever taken any money from the propaganda arm of a regime that hangs gay people from cranes" Unlike?......you fill in the blanks *edited to add the cranes bit

Theresa May unlikely to be as worried by how the negotiations are panning out in terms of thinking about the reaction among her own party if she has a clear mandate (sorry Seabag)which will give her negotiating team more confidence and more room, the EU negotiators will also be aware of this so less likely/able to play hardball. Basically I think it'll make compromise easier.

I have a hunch on that too J09

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > But the Lib Dems entered an alliance with the > Tories last time they got any votes, and look how > > that turned out. > > Not sure you understand the meaning of the word > 'Centrist'. It doesn't mean 'nicer, cuddlier form > of Labour'. Yes. I thought the Lib Dems did a good job in the Coalition in hideous circumstances and got an unfair kicking at the GE - I hope they do well this time and I'll be voting for them. I'd vote anything but UKIP to keep Corbyn away from Downing Street.

Well probably no surprise but I think the best outcome for the country by far will be a large conservative majority - this will give the Brexit negotiations more credibility - it will also more likely result in a soft Brexit as the Hard Brexit wing of the tories will have less leverage - the sensible commentators of the press picked this up as have the likes of Deutchbank which have changed their position on the UK GDP and the value of sterling - it will get rid (hopefully) of the incompetent marxist clown who heads up the Labour party and maybe see it return to grown up politics Politics does make me laugh as now half the people who were screaming "you've got no mandate" at May are now screaming "You said you wouldn't call an Election. Given Brexit it is an eminently correct decision whatever the politics. As it happens I will be voting SDP (again) as a big vote for them will send a message and soften Brexit and double bonus in ED that's a vote against Labour

I'm old enough to have seen united and Spurs relegated....happy days :)

Real Madrid...... ...maybe you'll get Bale back?

I cashed out on Rose when Sergio went in the trees on 13th for a decent profit and then could enjoy actually watching the golf!

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Yes. That's a man who earns a lot of his money on RT nowadays and at first said these attacks were fake news with no western media present to verify, when the BBC then pointed out a Guardian Journalists on the ground had witnessed the attacks he, the ambassador, went to plan b - "Assad would be mad to do this" totally discredited witness. If so many people believe the blatant russian propaganda peddling these ludicrous Conspiracy Theories on the internet then god help us. I suppose that passenger jet they shot down over Ukraine was faked too as they laughably tried to claim at first? The world is full of useful idiots as far as Russia is concerned

I had a place so broke even overall . In the golf i'm well covered as initial bets on lefty, Speith, Rose and Pieters meant I could also back Fowler last night and Rory today and be in profit on any of them (but especially Pieters :) )

PS this isn't revenge either it's targeting the airfield where the attacks were launched from

But, in a agreement with Jaywalker's game theory, Assad will probably now be wary of using nerve gas on kids....and on a continuum, of which all of is degrees of ghastly, that is less so. So well done Trump.

yes and that time was when Labour didn't support it for a 'political' victory - no wonder the new darling of Twitter, Ed Milliband, hasn't made any comment on this

I think plenty of people have said the same Toffee

The thing is these reforms are not about saving money but changing behaviour I think that's admirable in some ways but in real life the actual reality of what that means on the ground (in some cases) is heartbreaking...

But bombing that airstrips dropping chemicals on babies & kids - I'm supportive.