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Done!

It's very runny sir

It's the puerile bickering that I like the best - another bloody thread on Curry Houses is the tedious bit

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ruffers Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > White wine for same day eating, red if you're > > making in bulk to reheat. Or whatever they have > in > > Iceland. > > > I couldn't and wouldn't waste a nice bottle of > vino on a bog standard bolognese sauce. What a > total insult. > > Louisa. I assume you only measure wine measures in bottles Lou - but you only need a glass in Bolognes By the way it is white in Bolognese, even I know that and I'm not a foody

this is sooooo old news - see my 2008 thread :)

DTR You are nearly 10 years behind the times fella,,,,,

Glad to hear you are Ok RH - always good how people help out in general too!

> Help-Ma-Boab Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 2017: Scotland's year. Tennis and rugby. I couldn't help noticing you didnae put Football in there HMB?

Red Post hill always has of flats/houses for rent...BTL paradise for this reason (Charter) I suspect

Morning fag (pah) I see a geezer who looks like a painter and decorator, with his kit, at the bus stop most mornings 7.30 am with a Special Brew (and he doesn't look-vaguely alcoholic...yet....he's mid 20s I'd say)

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How come I still have one more payment then? I > only get one month off this year! > > Louisa. Only blow ins get a rebate

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does Dulwich park have a free table? Several(3 or 4?) in the kids park

Both their goals were really soft - keeper at fault

Gone off Camberwell DTR? I thought that was the new food heaven?

Otts - you already know what I'm going to say but.... UKIP are a spent force in his country IMO - and they aren't a fascist party anyway, just an incompetent one trick pony. The conservatives are a 150 + year most politically successful party in the world - we are not on the edge of a creep into fascism. Immigration - so I don't get shot down can I state that I don't give a monkey's about immigration - I tend towards liberalism even libertarian-ism on this issue. But, the 'liberal' narrative that mixes up concerns with immigration with dislike of immigrants is a complete and utter pile of crap, long mixed up in in the whole immigration debate by the worthy and the good. A poll last weekend showed that 95% of the Population support the right of existing EU residents to remain here; the greatest mixing/marriage/relationships/living cheek to cheek between immigrants and more established populations has long been in working class areas not leafy suburbs where the worthy and the good tend to live and pour scorn on the white working class and their supposed bigotry; Brexit is not a facist or anti-immigrant vote however much the majority of you genuinely believe it is - and I know you do - because immigration and immigrants aren't the same thing.... BTW How about Labour shortage will actually result in an increase in wages for traditionally piss poor paid occupations - though our next latte or hipster burger or cleaner's rates or Farmer's Market vegetables may go up a few pence....

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What odds ????'s? 3.2 - so just over 2/1

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My most lucrative recent betting has been > political betting. > > Personally, I think Labour may do better than > expected in Stoke, so have had a small investment :)

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quids, your obsession with some sort of tabloid > caricature of 'the left' (vaguely defined and used > as a pejorative, capable of shrinking or expanding > as necessary to encompass anyone with views at > odds with your own), is just a way of avoiding > engaging in reasoned debate. Add in constant > whataboutery, insults disguised as analysis and > the use of strawman arguments and I wonder whether > youre really only interested in talking to > yourself. Is that an ironic post, laughably hypocritical........Maybe given your and JayW's recent posts I'd suggest that actually it's possible that you don't want to listen. I've been debating reasonably on here for years on numerous subjects as you as you well know.....so don't try and close me down with insults and your own straw man dismissal. Not very often I get pissed off on here so well done for being a grade A arsehole

and, as an aside, it's partly that unwillingness to address changes and get it reformed and working in general which often leads the bigoted to blame immigrants for the problems of the NHS - it needs reform, not an open ended cheque book, or it will break....ironically groown up Labour MPS (so none of the current leadership) really do know this but it's their 'dog whistle' Vs the Tories

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Again (and at risk of being accused of 'virtue > signalling') - I genuinely vote (or at least > consciously I do - I'm sure there are all kind of > bias' that come into it) for the policies I think > are best for the country and the society I want to > live in. This is fine - but do you or would you willingly accept that many people who say vote Tory do exactly the same thing? Because they do - but most people from the left are completely unwilling to accept this. Tories are all selfish, self-interested, not believing in society etc I think that the new Virtue Signalling and the old champagne socialists give a chance for those not enamored with Socialism to give the, ahem, 'Righteous ones' a dose of their own Medicine - and they don't like it much do they

er,...it's February at the moment Mick, February

To fix it with tax we are talking -realistically - a several percentage point increase in the basic rate of tax. The problem with more tax is in reality a smaller and smaller amount of people pay a larger and larger share of tax in reality (especially when transfers are put in) - they are probably less keen and we are getting to a point where the social contract would start to break on this, I feel. Frame it as say - more tax into the NHS but your tax credits will be cut I'm not sure you'd get such support. High rate tax much past 40Ish% starts to be counterproductive (ask Hollande). People's income are squeezed as is - some more tax at a general level, especially in the 'squeezed middle' will reduce this further The multiplier effect of public spending is generally below private expenditure - our economy is doing just about OK spurred largely by Consumer Spending...take several % points out of people's income and this grinds to a halt. I don't (genuinely) think tax is the answer here as it won't 'fix it (NHS)' in the long term. We have to cut spending elsewhere; operate within existing budgets; do health better........or fund via some self-funding of sorts direct or contrinbutory/insurance (as is the case in much of Europe) . But, you know, national religon

nxjen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The increase in the use of NHS services is far > more to do with a population that lives longer and > people who cannot/will not access more appropriate > services, than any increase in immigration." > > What I haven't seen discussed anywhere is that > ever evolving medical research is continuously > making new discoveries in terms of treatment and > drugs which increases costs to the NHS to treat > previously untreatable conditions. I have no idea > what the solution might be. Theoretically loads: New Treatments that are more cost effective Technology that delivers services/treatments more effectively - from profound changes in say laser surgery technique to simple appointment/reminders setting delivered better but basically technology can reduce cost in myriad ways Better management all round to improve efficiency Better procurement practice Better non=-medical 'practice' eg, I read that the recent change to giving people with fluey type symptons anti-biotic perscriptions but framing this as "This is in case you don't feel better in 2 days then get the subscription' has had a material impact on subscription costs Further Devolving of some 'medical' powers and applications down the chain (see Jabs via qualified Nurses as an eg of standard practice now - used to just be doctors) Self- monitoring via technology/apps - is already but could be massive in reducing GP pressure and/or 'preventetive' practice These are just off the top of my head in 5 mins

I wouldn't drive there unless you have an amphibious car

On the whole I trust the proletariat over middle-class intellectuals.