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Yes, your first point.

Without the seperation then criticism of the religon Islam makes you anti people who describe themselves as Muslim or are part of the Muslim community or of a Muslim background, and so racist. So Islam doesn't get criticised very much as some liberals horror of being called racist is above any other consideration. Whereas say the Catholic Church is rightly condemned for its multiple sins we have vast waves of silence about other religions intolerance say.

So, why is it that most people don't seem to have the intellectual strength to separate the word 'Islam' from 'Muslim'? And I include in that both followers of the EDF and columnists in the Guardian

Oooh is that an elephant in the middle of the room? It's not terrorism out of the 1970s, it's not even that 'political' it's fanatical, deluded (and this case failed) religious martyrdom> All religons are medieval claptrap, and followers of the one that no-one dares speak of, just this week have blown up scores of fellow countryman in Baghdad as part of some 8th Century schism, hung a handful of 'bandits' and left them there to rot in a public square as a warning to others in their Kalamite, and spurred some deluded idiots in Woolwich to run over and decapitate a young dad. But, we can crow about Catholic priests as taht doesn't cross the code of the Guardian. I raise a glass to Hitchens, be he in heaven, or hell or just resting from such absurdity in blissfull nothingness

I thought it was sad when I read it in the Chapel of Rest thread yesterday Foxy.......a sole thread for a 70s wrestler, tsk

EDF rules, shhhhhhh HUffington post link an interesting article with many truths Snorks

Not the time or place, never is....

Mmmmmmmmmmm. Catholicism get off with that for priest abuse? Some, minority bits of Islam, are not that peace loving as events in Iraq this week have shown....are we all going to cover up our ears with the Guardian? It's very easy to make a case for significant chunks of Islam (not muslims)being pretty unpleasant.

Minor. Yeah I bet that's what the poor victims family are thinking....

Predictably, and probably not alone, the Daft Punk album. Fabulous production.....not quite sure tho.

Places I visit less savoury than this are reporting a mosques being attacked in Woolwich, hopefully just Internet sh1te

I am 95% that the winner will be straight back down next season....

Looks like we've got Carroll, subject to him signing

Second in this First in the Rugby ...I'm an all-rounder in the Denis Compton mold rather than a specialist like RD :) Congrats and thanks for all your work on this RD

I think we were told that until they are reasonably old (certainly older than 7 months) that allergy tests aren,t much use as things change too much so you are better waiting. That was from a specialist but I presume it reflects opinion and other professionals may see it differently.

I hope people haven't been disturbing you by honking their horns whilst you're tending to your olives MrB

Arrrrrrh, a sure sign that the end of the season is here, the annual gooners bating of the spuds is beginning...Facebook, full of it, already.

Here we go again......

Bobbie Gentrie.......oh yes

Chelsea 1 Everton 1 Liverpool 2 QPR 0 Man City 2 Norwich 0 Newcastle 0 Arsenal 2 Saints 1 Stoke 0 Swansea 1 Fulham 0 Spuds 2 Sunderland 0....but, alas, no Cigar West bRom 0 Man U 1 West Ham 2 Reading 1 Wigan 1 Villa 0

Daisy.....The Moll from The Great Gatsby....easy

FiFi from Fifi and the Flowertops

Lord's - Test Vz New Zealand

SS Congrats RD..... looks like the double too, unless my Swansea Coupon Buster comes in

Well done Wigan, now go down and disappear for all that crap whelan gave the Hammers about Tevez, I have seen Best, Moore, Charlton, Maradonna and Platini live, which ain't a bad fivesome. I even saw the first three in the same match. My favourite player ever tho is, for a host of reasons, Alan Devonshire.