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I think that's too simplistic Jeremy, I think they get a more anti-politics vote per se as well as protest about the EU I think that many people feel completley disconnected from politicians (abroad too)who are from an ever shrinking set of backgrounds - insert Oxbridge/Public School (especially tories)/Policy wonk,journalist, legal backround, political families*, metropolitan, no propa jobs, etc. *shite there are two households in the land, at least, where husband and wife are both MPs ...that's a bit greedy as there's 24 million households. I *think their share of vote will fall in a GE, they are not getting my vote - most of their 'policies' are barking or don't add up, but I'm glad they've done well as it's making the mainstream parties think....... a bit

Snork's got a ban

Tony Benn cuddly, lovely friend of democracy and great parliamentarian....

Where wolf?

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see myself & JL had the same predictions. Great > minds think alike! Or blurred minds, you decide. ...blurred minds

So they come here a country that,s an 'agency for the EU' to escape the 'dictatorship' that is the EU eh Tarot, remove the spittle from your keyboard and see if your brain is capable of a barking argument that at least contains some logic eh?

Bloody hell Villa, not just the points but doing wonders for their Goal difference, which was terrible...as wellas puting a big dent in Sunderlands!

is it running? :) Newcastle 10s on Betfair to go down earlier, outstanding value, i'd be happy with 6s

So much for Suarez! I,d be very worried if I was a barcode

The business end of the season and even Radio 5 is exciting.... Spuds last minute scrambling for winner after late equaliser, Wolves fans on the pitch threatening their own players after relegation then Brentford miss an injury time penalty for promotion and from the breakaway Doncaster score to get promotion....just hope Dulwich Hamlet are winning....I need a drink

I've not played for a few weeks : ( ........anyone?

Normally people who are over fond of the sauce tend have poor Hampsteads as: 1) They crash out without bothering brushing 2) there's a lot of sugar in alcohol Maybe you're the exception HMB :)

Man City 1 West Ham 1 Everton 1 Fulham 0 Southampton 1 West Brom 1 Stoke 0 Norwich 0 Wigan 0 Tottenham 1 Newcastle 1 Liverpool 1 Reading 0 QPR 1 Chelsea 2 Swansea 0 Arsenal 1 Man Utd 1 Aston Villa 0 Sunderland 1

Ditchwater Otta, ditchwater

The other factor is that pubs have re-learnt how to look after proper beer again. In the 80s and 90s the art (certainly in London) was almost lost, so even when you did have a real ale it was often off becuase not enough people were drinking it and it wasn't getting the care and attention it needed from many guvnors. Now, i know I can more or less rely on most (many) pubs to serve a decent ale so I rarely drink lager out of the home now* *exceptions being when it's very hot, i'm very pissed or the pub's a craphole

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bossman may be the single thing that shifts me > away from lifelong lager drinking > > I'm only on the pale ale type stuff but I know the > line has been crossed It's a gateway drink as a wise bird told me. You'll be on Fudgeries, old Kneewhacker and sporting a non-ironic beard by October. Actually I like most craft beer but they are not 'live'. In the pub I drink real beer at home the old wifebasher at 5.2% does the trick* *note Stella in the supermarkets is weaker 4.8 so therefore tastes crap like all weak lagers (well, let's be honest almost all lagers)

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Peter Lawwell wants football fans to be treated > like 21st century citizens with the right to drink > alcohol. > > Rugby fans are allowed a pint in Scotland while > Hampden does a roaring trade selling booze at open > air concerts. > > English clubs are allowed to sell drink to their > fans while Scottish supporters are treated as > untrustworthy. "North Bank bar, North Bank bar, North Bank, bar...Hic" Buying a beer actually on the terraces whilst watching a game...them were the days

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9795377/Twitter-map-finally-reveals-exactly-where-Manchester-United-fans-live.html? ...and the Top Team in SE22 according to Twitter? COYI SE5 too!

Some old tinker was trying to flog me some stuff he claimed was Paul Smith on the 40 bus earlier this evening...

Well, I am chortling away at it all - class/food, such a fine catch on standard bait- go and take a well deserved rest Louisa. They'll all calm down soon enough.

Have we had Guardian readers yet?

9 degrees max on Saturday

Louisa. Whatever you serve up, you have even hardened forumites, queuing up to eat, time after time. An inspiration, 10/10

.....and it looks like congrats to Man U even before the fat lady takes to the stage!

.,,naaaah, your folks just keeping you off the skag EP