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it may be true - but that's kind of what I'm saying..........

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...and of course I'm not for a minute suggesting > that all American women will be having the same > thoughts. Clearly many voted for Trump. But won't > there be a fair few who see this as a potentially > dangerous time - particularly for women's rights? i agree your last sentence. But not sure that a march in London will do much AND part of the reasons why some men in the US voted trump (and probably some women) is the championing of Identity Politics by many democrats, most campuses and many ' metropolitans' in the US , don't you think? if we start dividing every middle class person of non heterosexual sexuality, flexible gender, female, colour etc away from white men some white men are going to get pissed off. I'd prefer we all tried to work things out together - sentimental old hippy that I am.....

"identity politics is divisive nonsense that is reaping what it sows in the US and, to a lesser degree, the UK or certainly the Labour Party to the detriment of us all" - discuss PS I've checked my privilege

Like!! Big tune from my youth...

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I also saw today, > Oxfam suggesting that the World's eight richest > people have same wealth as the poorest 50%. Absolutely nothing to do with this, really, at all None of those 8 are UK citizens. If you earn more then $20 a month there's 2bn people worse off than you globally, given that the average income in the UK is ?24,000 it's a bit hypocritical to point your finger accusatory in the direction of Bill Gates whose given away $30 billion and my suspicion is that he's done far more to alleviate poverty and disease in the world than if that had gone into the US govt coffers as tax take. The problem is poverty and not inequality. Oxfam and other 'charities' are moving into very political territory that they should move out of IMO - self-righteous middle-class left wing hypocrites who also hate capitalism and no doubt the 'tory Scum" too . Tedious dogma.

So, basically, and as expected, middle-class socialists hate the tories more than they like an improvement in equality - quelle surprise

Gap may have been enormous but is now falling for the first time in 30 years, surely that's a good thing? But not if, you know, "TORY SCUM" In terms of age that just suggest that generally the younger generations weren't in the bottom 20% of income - at an aggregate overall level your generalisation is true - overall older groups have benefitted most but by default they must have been over represented in the bottom 20%? Humble pie from Morally Certain progressives will have to be eaten if this socialist trend continues - all that wasted virtue signalling......

...says the ONS. So the Tories have done more to reduce income inequality than 3 previous Labour governments. Biggest rise in income in bottom earning 20% of households - driven by minimum wag, raised tax allowances, pension raises locked in Lowest income raises in top 20% - driven by tax allowances tapered for ?100K+ earners; tighter tax regualtion and removal of child benefit for 40% tax payers. I thought this fact would be all over my progressive friends social media and the likes of the Guardian - you'd expect Jeremy would be supportive too. Silence..... The nasty party and friend of the rich indeed........

he'll be back methinks - don't think his account is terminated *waves anyway*

DovertheRoad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What a special day that was. Was that the year > there was a massive snowball fight in Dulwich > Park? I still have some pics of that somewhere. Yes but I seem to remember a few Posters - including MrBen - moaning about everyone skiving off :)

Grrrrr forgot!

Fuck you Payet - who needs you :)

I don't like him as a person or his DJing style but he was the first mainstream Radio 1 DJ to regularly play Soul from the 60s and he carried on with that support (although relatively mainstream soul) later on.

"pop ups" Hipsters Kindles Dimitri Payet

Ko Pang Yan Full Moon Parties Ketamine 606 House Music Ramones T shirts Me

Modern Football ...my son is mainly a Hammer 'cos of Payet so I'm going to have to keep this news quiet (he's Ok about the 5-0 loss on Friday miraculously)

lay or bet DTR?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DovertheRoad Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > Several studies show that dry January doesn't > > really make you any healthier and that > moderation > > throughout the year is far better. > > > > No sh1t.....! Really? > > However, a month without alcohol for someone who > generally exceeds the recommended limits is > certainly a good idea. I'm with Mic Mac - you are reducing your overall consumption (by 8%). But, non health related benefits: - puts a break on the acceleration and excess of Christmas by December 3oth I'm generally eyeing up my first drink at about 11am - a bit of self discipline and a bit of self discipline once in while is good for the soul - saves a bit of ???? (in both ways :) I am doing it for the first time in about ten years. I started way ahead of trend on this with Dry January's throughout the late 80s and all of the 90s. Not finding it that difficult but then my consumption now is way way below what it was back in the day. PS I don't drink in the week at home so this is another bit of reducing overall consumption

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rendelharris Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I've pointed that out to uncleglen before, but > for > > some odd reason he hasn't come back on it... > > There's a very important 'dog poo/cc tv' thread > that UG is busy on > > Remember there's no multitasking where the > #brexshitters are concerned > > 'Taking control' and 'getting your county back' is > about as much as their brain can hold > > That and speed reading The Express to reacidify > the bile. Quite a lot of Bile in this to be honest but I guess it's the virtuous type so above reproach

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We have to accept that things haven't been as bad > as was predicted. Sums up a lot of remainers opinion (but not mine) - "we have to accept FFS"? You, like many, clearly would rather things had gone badly.... It's done, we are out and we have to make the best of it and we are in betters shape than most on the left are willing to admit - with a lot more leverage than you realise. This Forum is like the fooking Guardian - negative, sanctimonious, full of woe, country hating - typical middleclass left wingery nothing positive to contribute. Why I gave up with left to be honest

and here's some actual economists for our eminent forecaster.. http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-university-of-cambridge-treasury-forecasts-little-basis-in-reality-project-fear-2017-1 Lordship you are not being objective here at all - which is fine you're absolutely entitled to your political views - but stop trying to claim some kind of rational and 'expert' high ground when your forecasts have thus far been terrible and are clearly driven by your subjective views on Brexit and are somewhat partisan (as your more recent posts clearly show), something which you seem completley unaware of and is possible effecting your expert judgement and certainly your forecasts!

...that's maybe, but i found his views on Economists to my liking

We know who he is we aren't complete ignoramuses to your towering intellect and fantastic forecasts :)

It's been a while and i know the old socialists duffer is an easy target but.... ...http://newsthump.com/2017/01/06/jeremy-corbyn-considering-doing-something/

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chief economist of Bank of England admits errors > in Brexit forecasting: > https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/05/c > hief-economist-of-bank-of-england-admits-errors Personally I'm nearer this.... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/06/economists-economic-policy-brexit-crash-failure