According to orioles...(mmm, now who is that?) on NHF Daize this is yer answwer Answer: Its the bland leading the bland, I'm afraid. No life, electricity or vitality. Nothing to stimulate just becoming a dull, dismal, (slightly) depressing, dreary Lounge area now as those who were prepared to take a risk or the feisty element ( bbw/mikecg/tls/afn etc) have all been sent packing. The truth is that any Forum I've ever seen, inevitably, relies on opinionated Men to raise the temperature and cause a stir ( and Yes! friction sometimes) but Men, invariably, have no hard feelings and often praise their adversaries. I'm afraid the combination of non-controversial and non-combatitive Females and liberal wishy-washy, uncontroversial Men has reduced EDF to its current boring nothingness. Think there are some truths in that