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I'd be careful of saying it's 'hard to dog in the sainsbury's car park' on a public forum

If I was the attendant I'd have pointed out something along the lines of.... " we are open from first thing monday thru to late saturday and yet today's the day everyone wants to go"

But honest MP - no problem with that

My suggestion is that we all meet with pitchforks and torches at 6.50am by ED station

Some arguments against points made on here 1) Betting shops are largely empty Betting is not like going for meal or even going for a drink - a great deal of betting business is a single relatively straightforward transaction, except for the hardcore all day user (more of which later). Therefore, a bookmakers doesn?t have to be ?full? to justify its existence - I hardly ever see (no pun intended) anyone in the opticians. 2) Gambling is the ruin of all gamblers and bookies result in all sorts of social ills Er?no, or certainly no more, and actually probably far less than pubs/off licences are the cause of far more widespread social, criminal and health problems. Of course, some people get into problems with gambling as some people do with drinking, some with drugs, some with sex etc. The vast majority of gamblers genuine enjoy the ups and, mainly downs, of gambling and pitting their wits. They may lose, and the majority do but MOST gamblers lose a little and have an occasional nice win and enjoy this well within their means, 3) Bookies are anti-social full of misfits A bookies is actually quite a social place with quite a lot of banter and collective commiseration (hey, and even celebration sometimes.) There are a hardcore of punters (mentioned in point 1) - who spend a great deal of time in the bookies, have mates their, bring in a daily budget and pass the day in likeminded company without getting in to any financial problems. They are, in the majority, not the sort of people many EDF types probably mix with?but so what. 4) Bookies somehow cause social harm to surrounding areas and attract the wrong crowd In east Dulwich pubs, I?ve seen several pretty unsavoury incidents including someone getting bottled, numerous fights, frequent highly aggressive behavious, abuse of passing people, people throwing up on the streets, Anti-social noise at closing time, not personally seen any of this in or by bookies 5) You only need one As any punter knows, it?s about the odds you get. The more the merrier - in reality it would be best if there were about 5 in a row so you could easily check odds/prices Let?s face it EDF?you don?t like them because you have prejudiced PB attitudes about the the whole gambling thing plus you don?t like their hardcore demographic? There Sean, some points rather than provocation as promised

To add my tuppence worth - i was pointing out that 'it' was subcoded in many posts....interestingly, the response from many on here seems to brand me as some kind of racist( which couldn't be further from the truth) for 'daring' to bring up the issue - I think even Bob thinks I am. My point was the race issue is just avoided with loads of liberal platitudes....."i don't even think it had crossed anyone elses mind", is, seriously the unintented funniest thing I've read on here to date Melbourne.....

I see dead people

BTW - "my very good aquaintance I have overt access to over ?100 Million sterling through the estimable East Dulwich Development Agency for which my fraternal bloodline is in employment with, I as a matter of some vigourous urgency need to access these funds, send me your bank details...etc etc", seriously,are there that many innocent out of towners in our midst to part with cash at the door for nowt?

Kings both times, no problems, natural births (i've got a brave missus, and that's just conception) , and back home within 5 hours....you really don't want to be hanging around the hospital as: a) they are fucking busy so if all is well they just leave you alone afterwards and you're almost forgotten b) the food is shit c)er...ebola If we do it again it's a home birth for us - To be honest I expect that there's not much difference so I'd go for Kings as presumably it's nearer

is it compulsory to have an irony bypass on here?

it's not true...........it was meant to be a lighthearted comment reinforcing the prejudices of the english...are you a stupid aussie or something?

indeed, prejudice runs accross all races and classes, personally I love everyone but the french

Get dealt A 8 would be the poker equivalent.......

he does, but I know many people who look like 'chavs' who are thoroughly decent, hardworking and nice people...with crap dress sense....

Ok - anyway, I'm off to play online poker (PB = Petit Bourg. PG)

Ok Sean, I accept, and now remember that you agreed some parts of my posts on the bank charges...so you clearly are capable of original thought : ). the use of we bothers me and riled me as I've had it several times already from various posters. Is this a cozy club or a forum....I will bother to sit down and make some points about gambling shortly...but with a few exceptions most arguments on here about it demonstrate ignorance, and however much they are dressed up with steretype and prejudice put forward as justification actually suggest to me that 'people like us don't want people like that round here'...I suspect you can see that a bit too....it looks like classic PB disapproval of gambling to me...am I being a bit provocative, sure, but that's my nature...

and who rattled your cage?

Anyway, your called asset so you can't talk

I think Mockney, who i don't think likes me much, called me Quids the other day which I like

Absolutely ChavWLD and Rosie - if we substituted Chav with black we'd rightly be chastised.....

I'm not, it strikes me that the undercurrent of this thread is pretty clearly "YUG, we don't want Betting Shops in our (recently aquired) manor"...plus a whole load of stereotypical views about the nature of gambling and bookmakers.......I notice, with a few exceptions, most reactions to my posts which don't are outright abuse Brandon calling me *%$*, or, as in Seans "Oi, you WE don't want your opinions on here"....sorry for pissing on your chips

er, I'm sort of agreeing with you Rosie? Seriously, do people actually look at what people are posting on here?

The white working class are an easy and PC acceptable target to pour scorn on nowadays

Sean - ever met any alcoholics or families ruined by booze? Where are your threads about closing down bars? I've noticed yours and others use of the word "WE"....are you the collective opinion of all the EDF? Forums are places for debate sorry If you're not up for that....but unless you really speak for everyone (and I'm sure you speak for a lot) I'd change your "We" to "I"... Meanwhile, whilst this is an open forum which I'm allowed to post on I'll continue to have my own opinions even if they are in the minority... If this was a dinner party I'd understand you're annoyance at the appearance of an unwelcome guest that disagreed with you and your mates but it's not it's a public forum. The laugh is that I'm sure that you and others think you're very liberal and tolerant and full of original thpought and opininon.....infact you're not at all........

You don't like me much do you mockney?