SeanMacGabhann

Yep. Im all me too i think.

as if

well now, THERE is a question No we aren't - but he did stand me up tonight. * sniffs *

zactly

I don't know Louisa but if you spend enough on me I'm hoping to see 3 of you

to be fair Lizzie, Louisa admits those shops you seek couldn't open here - wrong sort of space (building-wise) And if you see me wearing anything from White Stuff or Dr Boo, try not to judge me too harshly won't you?

I really don't think they will Mike - I'm not saying that's a good thing, but there are swathes of people who couldn't sing you a Beatles track if you paid them. You and I might be talking about them but many won't I will take the Beatles over Hendrix any day mind you. Him and Morrison.. save me

look a 50 piece chicken buffet!!! for two quid!!! I can't believe all those idiots on 20k would waste a pound on a free-range chicken breast when you can tuck in to this lot! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Why is not being able to shop at JoJomamanbebe depriving anyone? I thought proper working class people passed clothes on - at least they did when i were a lad... Shops aren't a service of the council. They follow the money. I have lived in poor white working class areas when I had no money. And I lived in well to do areas when I had no money. You'll just have to believe me when I say that lots of people with no money don't like living in run down areas just because the shops cater for the low-incomed. There are people as we speak who are planning to get the hell out of Ilfracombe et al and live on nothing but beans for 5 years so long as it doesn't mean staying another week in a run-down, lifeless, low-expectations deadsville. It's not the paradise you claim it to be (and yes before you say you never claimed it was a paradise, I'm speaking relatively) Anyway, shouldn't you be getting ready and bringing your purse - you have a drink to buy in about an hours time

they were indeed for a while Mikecg - it's the ongoing genuflection that makes them overrated. They stopped 40 odd years ago. Someone tell Oasis. Please

this doesn't make any sense to me. Regardless of what class I am, how am I not being served? If you are talking about the number of wanky shops then most of us can agree with that. But given the shop units are basically too small to accomodate the types of stores one sees in, dear god, the Glades.. what are people missing out on? I can buy cheap shoes, cheap haircuts, cheap food, cheap music, cheap books But it's arrogant to assume working-class people don't want quality either. Those options are also available. How, exactly, are working-class people deprived in ED compared with anywhere else?? It's a nonsense statement

94.9 FM for the next few hours... just do it

at last - THANK you polly D... that Ted Max better watch out when he is walking down EndenBell Street

6 music until That Woman clears off at noon from BBC London - then it's Robert Elms and Danny Baker all the way You know it makes sense

have a re-read of the Phoenix drinks thread if you're feeling nervous... plenty of people jumped in and had a great time. You'll be grand sure..

I'm still waiting for the "Sean was right", Louisa... - none of this "still a chance..." business

come along quids - Louisa is standing me a round. And if she stands me up I'll get them in...

Ted's picture doesn't show up on my work PC - so someone emailed me to point it out Proper coffee through nose moment

except the application notices have only been put up relatively recently.. so I dunno I popped in to speak with Nisha in Val's grocers on Wednesday and she seemed pretty resigned about it - hope they survive. I miss that shop and people since I moved

well tidy

spot on sir Keef

There are all manner of public figures which are far from popular - Jade Goody has her detractors, ditto Paul McCartney and/or Heather Mills. then there are the Hamiltons. The list goes on and on. And people say all manner of vile things about them .. but it isn't because they are any particular class.. Middle class and posh gits all get the same treatment

Why so quick to say "vilified" - with one or two exceptions I see support for Jade Goody on here and elsewhere in the media. That said, if Kylie was treated with more respect overall that might have something to do with the fact that she is famous because of her work and doesn't live here entire life in public. Jade Goody does. It's probably that simple I wish no ill on JG, and admire much of the way she has made a lot of her life. But equally, that is the currency she has chosen. She exists in the public mind only because she allows so much of it to be public - and the public will judge her accordingly. Kylie knows where the line is and only shows so much. You can say this is a class thing if you like - but only inasmuch as having class - it's nowt to do with what class you are. Plenty of working class people have more class than any number of other people At least when the character in the Truman Shown realised his life was a sham he tried to escape - JG has pretty much done the opposite And nor do I agree that her going public helps, on balance, other youngsters deal with similar situations. For every person who does take a lesson from this, several more will instead be taken in by the vapid celeb lifestyle she has lived for so long

East Croydon?? ooof 6+ miles and only 500 odd calories burned - doesn't seem fair does it? East Dulwich to East Croydon

that noise you hear Louisa, is the sound of me running out of knowledge on a subject... no idea I do know I was the very first customer in there (as Black Cherry)