Jimmyay, Kat - you may have a point, in that tragically, there does appear to be a problem amongst young, black males in London. But the way you (and others) choose to dwell on that on this thread just strikes me as rather insensitive and tasteless. Emotions are still raw, and friends and family have undoubtedly been reading this thread. You have to consider people's feelings, and you have to avoid tarring huge swathes of the community with the same brush. And as Dully suggests, other communities have their own problems too.