Moos

Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry to be slow, I just found your nan a bit of a non-sequitur, but I agree pushy salesmen are a real menace to older people.

Not that I think the 'Godfathers' need defending (I like that term...) but you're being a bit cheeky, microbite. You re-start a thread that had gone quiet almost a week ago with 'I stand at a loss as to how so many people can get on my case about my thoughts and feelings' - which is pretty much asking for responses from prior posters, isn't it? - and then accuse people of ganging up on you when they reply. Come on. I'm not attacking you personally, and I really share your horror and sadness about this situation, so I hope you won't take offence, as none is intended.

Tried what with your nan, seanm?

I suppose it would imply that they would be unable to treat all of the civilians whom they police equally and fairly. One could make the same argument for doctors, teachers or firefighters, but I suppose the additional powers that the police force possess (and I have a feeling the same ban applies to the armed forces) makes it just that bit more urgent.

Quite apart from shamelessly nicking what I said a few posts up, Boberino, I just feel that you can't say 'f@ck 'em'. Horrid though it is, in this instance we're all in it together. But now I'm wondering why I've spent 5 posts defending the BNP. *goes off to have a lie down*

The monkey might not agree. And the table-tennis bat would probably be a bit cheesed off, too.

Quick bit of googling (this is from the Mail's site, which so far is the only major paper I saw that had repercussions already on) Today a DJ was dropped and a Merseyside police officer facing investigation after alarmed bosses started to scour the list for employees' names. Talksport radio said it would 'no longer use' DJ Rod Lucas who covered late night shifts for the station earlier this year. Edited for sloppy typing and to add of course police officers aren't allowed to be BNP members so if the Merseyside guy is then serve him right.

To be fair to 'Mac' (hee hee) I think that is what he was saying, too. I wasn't intending to imply in my post that I was countering an argument of his.

A Doctor proclaimed the way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started. So I looked around my house to see things I'd started and hadn't finished and, before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of Merlot, a bottle of shhhardonay, a bodle of Baileys, a butle of vocka, a pockage of Prunglies, tha mainder of bot Prozic and Valum scriptins, the res of the Chesescke an a box a chocolets.

No, I would not be happy if our addressses were in the public domain. The 'if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide' argument is the step towards continually having to prove by law that you are doing nothing wrong which erodes our civil liberties. But I am leading the argument towards ID cards, and going off topic. Although 'club' is not a phrase, it seems an adequate word for an organisation with members. I think you've put your finger on the right place there - if we don't agree that an organisation should be legal, we can make that argument. But while it is, we must support its right to the same existence and privacy laws that protect us all. If not, whom would you have make the distinctions? I find the thought of it rather unpleasant.

It's hard to feel sympathy, but surely we all believe that we have an intrinsic right to join any club we like and have any belief we like? I'm with Voltaire on this one. BNP members might not extend those rights to others, but should we besmirch our own principles to their level?

Why were you shocked, bawdy-nan?

thanks pb

Will there still be a connection from Denmark Hill to London Bridge?

Agreed - if requires work to put it back / maintain it, I'd be happy to let it disappear.

Oh! :-$:-$ Moos the Dimwit

I don't get bum-scissors... :-$

Me?! Not for a million squillion zillion pounds*, I'd be terrified. *well, maybe then

Any previews, Keef? What about a rocked-up version of 'Walking In A Winter Wonderland'? That would be super-cheesey but also quite fun. But then again, I'm a Christmasaholic (or holly-ic) and you shouldn't listen to anything I say.

cdonline, that sounds like the situation that Siduhe (sp?) described. If the bus driver politely says 'I'm sorry, you'll have to wait, or pay your fare, the rules are very strict' then that's "fare" (oh ha ha haha haaaaaaaaa) enough. It's being shouted at and treated like a criminal that's entirely out of order.

Keef, I certainly wasn't having a pop at you - I think it's natural enough to get exasperated and wonder why if you haven't got something urgent to do you have to take up resources at the busiest time. I just think we should take a breath and not impose our own sense of priority on other people, because we really don't know or understand what they have to do, we just speculate. It's like the people who jump the bus queue at London Bridge, which drives me wild. You can see them looking shifty and I imagine them justifying it to themselves on the grounds that they're really busy.. really late.. whatever, without thinking about everyone else's busy schedule or late running. Quite apart from Brendan's excellent point about respect for the elderly.

Wow, I remember that song, my mother used to sing it. Well, I remember the first verse anyway.. :-$

And slowly dripping downwards. Not much of a fate.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am going to be shot down in flames for this, but > I hate old people using the bus before 9am! If > they have a medical appointment fine, but if not, > can't they just wait for a bit til after rush hour > to go on a little bus ride!!! I used to think that too, Keef, and I had a particular gripe against old people nabbing the pre-9am slots at the doctor instead of leaving them to us working folk. I'm rather ashamed to say that it wasn't until I became an honorary annoying old person (by dint of a year off work and becoming permanently attached to a pram when outside the house) that I changed my mind. When you are an annoying space-taker-upper you do try to travel and book appointments at non-peak hours but it isn't always possible, and when faced with the glares of the commuters you start to wonder what makes them so damn' special that their priorities must always come before those of the marginal people. If I'd worked and paid taxes for 40 or 50 years (or just worked...) I'd probably think I could go where I want when I want. But I'd probably also prefer to ride the bus when all the grumpy, inward-looking workers weren't on it, so I could enjoy a sit-down and a chat.

Why does he look so sad? The Hulk is usually a tower of rage. Alternatively, he could be viewed as a sort of 3rd Form (remember that?) geography drawing, including lots of hills and possibly even an oxbow lake.