El Pibe

didn't the draft house do foot long scratchings? Not gstro pub granted.... And Brawn do amazing scratchings too. I do love a good pickled egg though!!!

ooh, will check that out, RRD is something i've pondered about for a while

> Considering most internet memes are rather short-lived, doesn't this somehow go against the whole gene analogy? "I guess analogously the internet is more like th edeep rainforests where genetic markers spring up and dissappear rapidly in aplace of high fertility and competition." And then chuck in things like recessive genes meaning old ideas resurface etc i guess it still holds water. Not sure how useful it is as an idea though, other than as a useful word.

i have seen irrational rage over the ibc, which is ostensibly mean-spirited given the amount it's achieved in raising awareness, and hopefully money, for research into an awful condition.... .....and yet....and yet....it is rather exactly how you describe isn't it, especially the smug c-list shlebs trying to up the stakes in a bid for attention.

I thikn charlie brooker has found a door that takes you into my head http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/11/want-to-silence-a-two-year-old-charlie-brooker

think long hair as counter cultural act of rebellion, spreads from california (or wherever) to east coast, thence to europe, but mutates as countercultural elements become mainstream, you end up with burt reynolds in a mullet, meanwhile it also mutates into spiky hair in punk, and post punk fractures to all sorts, weird flock of sea gulls curtains etc. More recently with ideas flying over social media, forums etc this can be something like the downfall with alternate subtitles, copied, then parodiedetc (though the concept was probably nicked of something else), or "your bases are belong to us" from original in game weirdness to in-joke to a sort of badge of geekdome. I guess it also covers things like the ice-bucket challenge or the #3positivethings, though they're more viral marketing, but share properties i guess. I guess analogously the internet is more like th edeep rainforests where genetic markers spring up and dissappear rapidly in aplace of high fertility and competition.

some of that corpus stuff was from the sixties, was he publishing back then? not impossible i guess. there you go, 1976, richard dawkins!! http://books.google.ie/books?id=P6lRgAmsp9gC&pg=PA209&dq=%22meme%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1DX3U7_dFNSp7Ab9g4DoBA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22meme%22&f=false wow, and those calulators!!!!

yeah yeah awright!! I tend to hate trendy new words, especially when we have a perfectly good word in place. I get annoyed when meme gets misused, but give me a nice word for an idea that is repeated and spreads (and perhaps mutates) in a viral fashion over modern technological, especially social communications. I guess we have 'cultural marker' but even that is not really there is it. I think you're just neologophobic ;-P a quick swizz at google ngrams shows meme as the idea of conflating genetics with the spread of cultural ideas has been around has been around for quite a while!! (though most of the really old ones are just the french "m?me") https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Meme&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=7&share=&direct_url=t4%3B%2CMeme%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bmeme%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BMeme%3B%2Cc0

*quickly does the opposite of Ot "two points" ta*

Comic Sans seeing it on anything makes me want to punch kittens!!!!

Twitter spats as news. Gggggnnnhhhh!!!!

I simply had no idea what it was all about but couldn't sum up enough energy to care

I'm with Jeremy on this one.

I don't suppose there's an exact definition, the wikipedia entry is incredibly ambiguous. I tend to think of it as a pub that does good food as it's primary purpose, and depending on implementation, the pub element is really just a setting rather than an a cultural lifeblood to which it remains committed. For me the engineer is a proper pub that has a proper foodie bit in another room. How long is piece of string (or a chinaman as my casually racist father liked to say) I guess, but I'm obviously in the negative bit regards the aspirational use of the term.

It's got a proper pubby bit the engineer though, an old work haunt of mine that one.

I dunno, franklins is a restaurant for me, though the front bit could qualify i don't think that's the main point of the business as it's really tiny!! I don't know about the patch, sounds liek a gastro to me, but Palmerston for sure. Crooked Well?

neat, though it does seem to have gone for that i, vice, wired aesthetic that i find quite annoying

double layered nostalgia!!

I think the EDF should join forces. I've always had a lot of time for Londonist, I reckon they'd be interested to meet the charming, eloquent, witty if garrulous denizens that stalk it.

Is it?!?! oh christ, cold sweats at the memory!!

I'm sure they're lovely, you might want to suggest they get a friend to proof it for them though!

>>get normal coffee beans from your local supermarket and force feed them to the mewling emaciated starving moggies >>imprisioned in your shed of cats. hey presto - expensive "civet cat" indonesian style coffee which is more or less how it's produced anyway.

"before then realising their mistake though" was their mistake finding themselves in Stevenage perchance?

actually they're pretty good at mangling english too, those missions and philophies don't actually make much sense. If you can find them by clicking on the unrelated pictures rather than the words of course.

They have a mission to ignore the fundamentals of good website design that's for sure.