El Pibe

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nope. You have to include the area code when > dialing from your mobile. But the area code is > 020. And if I where to quote a number to you, I > would give it as 020 (pause) 8910 (pause) 1234 and > get extremely upset if (as often happens) you made > me repeat it by saying > "sorry, 0208, then what?" > I can't understand why after 14 years, so many > people still cannot process a London phone number > unless it is expressed in (the entirely erroneous) > terms of the area code, plus the first digit of > the number. > ^^ this times a million

i like to think we're debating how to put an end to this mostrous situation, rather than it being some declaration of side choosing. anyway the guardian made a fair point http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/31/guardian-view-killing-children-gaza I was listening to a radio interview with the (rather grown up) children of Pat Finucane yesterday. THey were incredibly eloquent and philosophical about the wohle situation and rather inspiring. It might be on rte catch up if anyone can be arsed to look. But they finally got to the point where David Cameron apologised to them for the actions of the British State, Douglass Hogg essentially declaring open season on any lawyer representing republican paramlitiaries, and the undoubted collusion between british security services and the use of loyalists to do their dirty work. Doubtless they thought it was acceptable, that the scourge of the IRA needed defeating even if that meant collateral damage on any of their interests or supporters (they weren't in any way IRA supporters but that's hardly the point), because we don't negotiate with terrorsits because they're evil, they want simply to kill us. And so 25 years later we have the top representatives of all parties, including statesmen who had been those terrorsits, who of course negotiated, soberly addressing a wrong from the past with an unreserved apology. And this for a single murder, because murder eats away at the soul of a nation, because it makes us all less human. Because it is morally reprehensible, because it's wrong.

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Lots of defunct boozers coming your way. my guess the winner will be a toss up between CPT, Inside72 and Hoopers ;) And remember NTV! EDT was always my stalwart, the Gowlett is probably the best compromise between real pub and sop to modern mores/

Northerners are lovely, some of my best friends etc...though I will admit as a child I'd switch off 'why don't you' if it was from anywhere with a dodgy accent ;)

I've woken up in the odd doorway, it was aliens i tell you ociffer!!!

So you're telling me Earth is a butlin's holiday for grey trash then? The classy ones hang around the back of MOA-192 b's equivalent of a Burger King and scoff whatever passes for a gherkin whilst molesting womp rats? It's a blessing they don't actually get out and say hi then!!

"I'm convinced that PR park is an attraction for aliens" To be ever so briefly, and hypothetically rational, just for a second like, I do wonder why an intelligent species that had managed not to destroy itself on the path to supra-light travel, given the incredible advantages of technology they would have over us, the potential benefits to us if they were benign, the awful consequences for us if they were not, would be so coy yet indiscreet about their presence. Given the huge sums a civilisation would have to invest in these awesome machines able to somehow go beyond the known physical laws and travel vast distances in the blink of an eye, and given our own touristic proclivities that tend to nice weather, amazing natural phenomena, good food, good company and the like, why (oh why) would they choose to undertake these great journies to potter about in their small glowing craft above Peckham Rye. Is it some intestellar cottaging/dogging spot perhaps? Maybe SETI should be pointing inward to some alien corner of grindr. Greenr perhaps?

memories of Diana in V!!!!

i was within a stonesthrow last night goddamit. Capital pubs may have started locally, but it had 40 odd pubs under its belt when it sold up didn't it?

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > People in a group situation laughing when they > don't even know what is funny, just because > everyone else is laughing. Awkward. Embarrassing. Wow, that practically defines me at the moment, its less annoying than me asking people to repeat themselves for the umpteenth time!!!

BLimey what an app, you may never want to let your keys leave your sight again!!!! https://www.key.me/

modern world is rubbish etc

I think it's generally considered acceptable when clearing up ambiguity, say cd's rather than the tla cds. DC's sxamples are legit but have been falling out of favour over the years.

the former. its breaks the rules of possessive apostrophes because I guess "it's" means "it is" rather than belonging to it.

"The endless moralising in Thomas" in fairness it was written by a vicar, what were you expecting?!?!?! But yeah, pride before a fall as a plot device wears thin very quickly

ah, there's your problem, the translation might be ok, but translating there and back is always fraught.

But I'm no physicist, or philopsopher for that matter, better off going to a board more qualified than this one for such existential insights ;)

But isn't the star proof that the past existed in the past, or are you suggesting that light magically materialises in your eye? We good test for it but tests imply cause and effect which, though rather begging the question again, probably imply that time is linear therefore the past existed.

To turn things aside for a second, british forces in afghanistan went to great pains to minimse casualties, but we still bombed innocent compunds on bad (or wilfully malign) intelligence, still killed civilians in the crossfire. After centuries of visiting imperial suffering for our own gain and once even having had a catastrophic experience in that very country, shouldn't we have known better. The past rarely informs the present particularly usefully, and its the politics thats wrong, war being a failure of politics of course. Isreal is a country in a volatile region with many enemies, the holocaust informs this by saying 'never again will we be in a weak position that this may happen'. But I think it's got its solutions all wrong to the situation it finds itself in. Quids said that religion is the problem. Maybe true, but time and again we find that the enemy of religious conservatism is education and prosperity. For instance all the Iranians I know couldn't give two hoots aboiut Israel, and Iran is a society nicely balanced beteween urban sophisticates and rural conservatives, sanctions only serves the forces of conservatism and I'm glad to see that dialogue is moving forward and away from conflict, whereas if Netanyahu had had his way they would have bombed and the conflict would be further deepened, the bombing eliciting the election of a more hardline government. The key to ending this is investment in universities and businesses, in giving people access to jobs and international markets, as well as obviously food and water. Everybody wins, money far better spent than making Lockheed Martin's shareholders happy.

really? I couldn't even see a joke, just another stupid use of the buzzword du jour. I might kill the next project manager who sticks it randomly into a sentence in fact.

great article

9 posts up. aah, so when you say that the past exists you mean in the present. Isn't that rather begging the question? If time is non linear its entirely non sequitur. In fact if time is non linear then you can't....ermmm...sequit?

Not especially useful PD. I might surprise you that we killed over 50 thousand french in the taking of normandy. To be fair to the IDF I think they're genuine about trying to minimise casualties, compare that to Assads random barrel bombs. Mistakes happen in war, prior to this laser guided age friendly fire is thought to amounted to between 20% (WW1) to 15% (ww2) of causualties I just don't think they should have been put in this shitty situation in the first place.

light is all you ever see, does that prove that past existed or to paraphrase you, "Surely the only thing that exists is the past." It's your present that's an illusion ;)