KidKruger

If you keep getting tickets and keep having to appeal, perhaps try small claims court for wasting your time and to compensate the hours (if you logged them) spent dealing with this repeating mess. You could also file for harassment !

I?d disagree with that summary Angelina, but my view is only based on the last 3 years - dog owners are the main cause in my experience. Of course that doesn?t mean multi-dog walkers are completely innocent (they?re just not the main cause IMO). I regularly see lone dog walkers, or dog walkers with other dog walkers chatting, leaving the dog to lay it?s doggy eggs for us all to tread in. Anyone can accidentally miss the odd poo I guess, but that?s not a good enough excuse for park users overall - especially when they have to clean themselves and their home afterwards. Fact is, regular dog owners haven?t paid enough attention and the park is a toilet. I again picked up two today (besides my dog?s).

?Hi mate (Dave) I just thought I would bring to your notice that somebody has posted on the East Dulwich Forum what I regard as derogatory marks about you and your business. They are saying they called you (on a Sunday for heavens sake) and feel offended that they didn?t get either the answers all the information they were looking for! Here is the thread on the EDF: /forum/read.php?30,1647560,2046726,page=3#msg-2046726 I just don?t like people slagging off businesses without due reason, and I have told the person so, publicly on their thread. Best?

Leave a tradesman be on a Sunday, jeez. And slagging the tradesman off to boot. Sense of entitlement = bewildering Why not delete this thread, so you?re not unfairly costing him business. I?ll contact him to bring this thread to his notice (because I bet you didn?t have the spine to tell him yourself).

Let?s keep this thread on dog owners abusing their privilege. Litter, speeding, assaults and building noise can be discussed somewhere else (and is a distraction from the OP). The priority here is dog fouling on GG, not dog owners. If we lose the right to walk dogs in GG and any other parks then fair enough - if we can?t collectively meet our obligations then we fail the community and lose the right, simples (and reasonable, no?). If I continue picking up 20+ dog poos per week (as well as those from my own hound) I will raise with the council myself. It?s simply not on and dog owners have been taking advantage far too long IMO.

First mate that?s a reasonable suggestion. Thing is, I think the rogue poos are from (normally) responsible dog owners who are just to ?busy? to notice their dogs? efforts at the time it happens - and other days they may well notice (and pick-up). I?m not saying the culprits are nasty people, it?s a vigilance issue. In the past I?ve pointed out to owners who are great dog owners (I see them regularly) but they?re just missed the event at the time. It takes seconds for a dog to unload BUT owners know their dogs? behaviours and routine so should be ready. It?s got to the state on GG where I?d support a ban on dogs on GG, which would inconvenience me a bit but we all have to make sacrifices for the greater good. It?s not OK to foul a public space, the outcomes of fouling for individual victims are disgusting, having to clean yourself, your kids, your clothes, your car, your house and the persistent stench of dog mess for days afterwards. I picked up two ?extras? yesterday, would have done more but ran out of doggy bags. One of them was MASSIVE, it took two bags to remove it, this was from a large-bodied dog, only the smell indicated it was not human it was that big. This is not a new issue, it?s been years. I?d be interested on this thread about views of non-dog owners, because this needs addressing and soon, perhaps collectively a petition is needed to end the dog era on GG ?

I think saying it?s multi-dog walkers is an easy answer. The perpetual scapegoat, in any park. Only this week I?ve seen lone dog walkers not seeing their dogs depositing nice dog eggs for kids to slip on. One person I spoke to to point out where their dog had curled one out. I use the park (as do my children) without the dog and from that perspective Goose Green is basically a dog toilet. If you?re not constantly watching your dog when off lead it?s probably leaving it?s mess (as dogs do) for someone else to walk into their house.

I am reluctantly raising this on the forum, hoping that some of those who walk dogs on Goose Green will read it - or it?ll be brought to their attention by people they know who read this. For the last couple of weeks, when out with my hound, I?ve been picking up dog poo created by other peoples dogs, as well as my own. At first, I just picked up the odd rogue poo. But then I decided to pick up all rogue poos. This proved basically impossible because you?d never get home ! A limit was needed, so I set it at a manageable 3 rogue poos per day. So, the last 2 weeks I?ve picked-up 3 x rogue poos per day. That?s 42 rogue poos in 2 weeks, I could have picked-up twice that amount. I know I haven?t picked them all up, there?s still plenty left to stick to park users and kids. My point is that Goose Green is a dog toilet that isn?t being flushed, it?s disgusting. Dog walkers should be picking up, every time they take their dog to any park. Basic responsibility. Why is this happening ? Some obvious reasons I?m witnessing: 1. Chatting to other dog walkers. 2. Constantly loking at phone. For some walkers the dog ?walk? is just phone-time in the park. Both are distractions from responsibility to watch for their dog messing. For me, 1 & 2 above, are not a good enough excuse. If you have a dog on Goose Green and you haven?t picked-up after it on a particular visit, ASK YOURSELF WHY this is. Dogs in a park routine usually poo when they get to the park, not the odd day by chance. Take some ownership and show some respect to other park users and the responsible dog walkers who you are giving a bad name. I wouldn?t blame Southwark for banning dogs from Goose Green, in fact surely it?s only a matter of time ? This level of fouling is a clear health issue. I probably haven?t been very succinct above but hopefully the message is coming through - SORT YOUR SHIT OUT !

Eggy - What is the reason advised to you for the fine?

They?ve had a privileged position for some time, thinking their position was unassailable. Wrong !!

Speaking of the Castle, if a Wetherspoons opened in SE22 it would probably be the end of the Castle.

UG - why, what SHOULD the ambassador have said in his appraisal of Trump and the administration ? The ambassador had a view and somebody leaked it. The job of the ambassador is to represent the U.K., if he has concerns with the host country he?s supposed to highlight it to Govt. as clearly as he can. Which is what he did.

I think FH PO still does passport photos

Hummy: "vile and invasive" jesus wept... You could make the same twatty comments about people not liking the smell of farts. But you?d also be wrong there too. It?s not your choice what other people do or don?t like. If I think it?s vile and invasive then I think it is just that - to me ! There?s no debate to be had about what I feel, ?Jesus wept? !! ETA: Just read Artful?s comment, yes this is my point.

Reefer Madness

Same tired prejudice. Same kind of responses naturally. Next is calling-out the responders as posh, privileged, holier-than/thou, need to get in the ?real world?. Repeat To Fade.....

I think dog owners resenting fireworks is reasonable. expecting all fireworks to be banned for the sake of dogs less so (I'm sure most dog owners dont actually expect full ban on fireworks !).

...also, I'm not convinced 'No Dogs' means 'Cats, Llamas, Rhinoceros, Horses and Goats allowed'. This has to be a wind-up thread.

So that's settled then, no 'spoons in ED. Not viable. Not enough demand. Would drag the area down. Sorted.

Same here seenbeen. Though I?d like the vape stuff banned from public spaces too, it?s vile and invasive - regardless of which sectors use it for whatever !!

...and the sense of uneasiness you feel when you pop in at 1000 for a cheap breakfast and there?s lone guys sat around nursing their 3rd pint.

Crazy idea. Putting cats in massive danger. If a lurcher / greyhound / hunting breed is off lead and sees the cats it could be bad news. Probably some other breeds too. Dogs don?t read signs, especially when chasing cats ! Regardless of what safe ?area? you think you?re in.

Takeaway for me has to be Two Sisters in Nunhead. If you like anglicised ?Indian food? this is the place. Love it. Cool guys running the show too.

?An affordable option for local people? ? I don?t get that. Who are the local pubs being patronised by currently, if not local people ?

....?that?ll be an extra ?15 per month charge besides your council tax, please? !!