Lowlander

EDdownunder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @ medley - nope, london bridge is in zone 1, so I > am only suggesting that zone 2 to zone 1 should > cost the same pay as you go regardless of the > stations involved considering it costs the same > for a weekly or monthly within the same zones > regardless of stations used. Not excusing it...but it's the change in transport mode. If you use NR or TfL only then the cost is lower. You pay more because you're using both (in fact the same as if you used the train and tube).

EDdownunder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You are correct that's the justification allright > I am just challenging this on the grounds that > touching in and out only once in the same zone > should be the same price for payg regardless of > the station given the same equality exists for > travel cards over a week / month. Yes, I agree. It's a legacy of a lack of transport integration. Might be fixed in 20 years.

Shoreditch is in zone 1, whilst Whitechapel is in zone 2

EDdownunder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I tried the ELL home from Shoreditch yesterday > changing at Peckham Rye and it was a bit more > comfortable a journey than the usual squueze fest > between london and east dulwich, although 4 trains > an hour only means a bit more waiting time than on > national rail. > > I was a bit surprised that the payg fare is ?3.70 > for a one way ride...compared to ?2.30 from london > bridge so sadly this poses a wee problem for pay > as you goers as its not a 60% better commute to > justify the 60% increase in single fare. > > What really ticks me off though is that it costs > only ?2.70 from Peckham Rye and therefore costs ?1 > to travel from peckham rye to east dulwich.....how > is this fair? London Overground is cheaper than National Rail (same prices as the tube). East Dulwich isn't served by LO, so you have to use the Southern service, and are charged accordingly. Even if for one stop.

charles26 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > whilst they are at it they should get rid of the > co-op and replace that with a waitrose? that will > really push the penny savers over the edge. i love > waitrose but my god what a rip off. The same Waitrose who price-match Tesco?

Otto Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just ask your bank for a new contactless card and > they will send one out. Mine did, no hassle. I had one with Barclays a few years ago but ended up cancelling it as it interfered with my Oystercard

Handy...none of my current three credit and bank cards (from three different banks) are contactless though, so can't take advantage of this until 2016... And they wonder why it's not catching on!

Some of them do - I saw one the other day - but not all. Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'm sure the changeover is straightforward, but > I > > am questioning why there is a changeover at > all, > > for what is supposed to be an orbital London > line. > > It's to do with the electrical current the > services use, the ELL uses the third rail system > (DC) and the trains that run on the West London > Line and North London Line use a mix of third rail > and overhead power lines (AC). Our trains don't > have the pantographs which those trains that run > north of Clapham Junction do.

I'm guessing this would be done by taking out the ceiling, so that first of all you're just looking into the loft through the ceiling joists. This will create untold amounts of dust, leave exposed wires and possibly piping which need to be re-routed (cheap and easy). Then you'd have to remove the ceiling joists, easy, but they could be structural... You'd then have to insulate and plasterboard the roof (easy) After that they'd put in some supports and a new floor. You may need some beams in here for support (the expensive part) I'd be very interested to see if this is any cheaper than a traditional loft conversion.

A decent independent Italian restaurant. Please.

Definately complain to Co-Op head office - at the very least the duty first-aider should have dressed your cut properly and the Manager informed. And the cake put down of course...

Anyway where in Herne Hill can I buy pheasants?

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No, lowlander, that's just not reasonable. This is > an unfortunate tragedy, but nowhere near grounds > for a unilateral and poorly informed attack on the > hospital. You have no idea of their training > regime. > > I don't know if you've ever been involved with > training, or large public facing institutions, but > training people doesn't make people do the right > things all the time. People just make mistakes. > > I'm not sure what the hypothetical story about > teenagers is trying to prove? Agreed it's a tragedy. I've been extensively involved in information security at a number of large organisations. I'm sure it's a fine medical institution, and I'm not questioning that side. What I find extraordinary to believe is that: (a) there is a a direct line number, publicly available, which got them through to staff on the ward. Especially given that a hospital of such high standing should receive many high-profile patients who would wish a great degree of confidentiality, and who would wish the hospital to respect that. (b) that the staff were not trained in taking direct phone calls (all calls should be routed through a reception desk or duty manager). Even if nurse 1 made a human error, nurse 2 should have checked where the call was coming from. © that no-one envisaged (as mentioned before, especially in light of the phone hacking scandal) people phoning up. This wasn't a sophisticated attempt to gain access. This was a stupid prank which would have blown over within 24 hours had it not ended in tragedy. Lastly I don't understand why you're questioning my question without answering it first.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Edcam wrote: "I also agree that the training and > protocols in place at the hospital are obviosly > shockingly bad (especially considering the price > attached to being a patient there.) As someone > else said, this would be highly unlikely to happen > in an NHS hospital." > > Is this based on a detailed knowledge of the > independent healthcare sector and healthcare in > general or some vague prejudice against private > healthcare? > > 1. The training and protocols at King Edwards are > of a high standard - I was involved in a project > that looked very closely at the hospital less than > a year ago. > > 2. No amount of training, protocols or policies > can preclude human error - which is essentially > how the two nurses concerned let slip the > confidential information - something that would > not have happened but for the poorly judged > actions of the DJs. > > 3. To cite the NHS as an example of good > management where mistakes are not made is risible > - North Staffs, Pembury and countless other NHS > hospitals have over many decades demonstrated that > the NHS is not immune to slack management, poor > levels of care, errors and mistakes. Only last > week the Chief Nursing Officer was calling for > more care and compassion from NHS nurses. > > Finally altho an independent hospital King Edwards > is, in fact, less costly than the majority of > other independent hospitals in London - offering > free and discounted services to serving and > retired military personnel as well as general > acute services to al. Try the HCA / BMI or Spire > groups for premium pricing. This is a member of the Royal Family we're talking about, not Joe Public. This could only have happened because no-one trained the staff how to answer the phone. In light of recent phone hacking scandals this is unacceptable. The responsibility lies with hospital management. They've failed both their staff and their patients in this case. Imagine a couple of teenagers did the same thing and posted it on YouTube. Who would you be blaming then?

Drying clothes indoors is a health risk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20176376

Find the causes of moisture. Drying washing, which produces vast amounts; bathrooms (see you've got an extractor), poor ventilation especially when cooking - what's the kitchen like?. That will help a bit. You have three other choices if you're still not happy 1 replacing the panes of glass with double glazed ones, 2 replacing the windows entirely, 3 Buying and running a dehumidifier Where is the most condensation? You could just have a dehumidifier for a few hours in the living room on a timer - early morning say - if the problem is only there?

The Hospital Director should take it in the neck for this. Senior Management should have trained all staff in how to answer calls, and I'm amazed that there wasn't greater security for the Royal Family. To compound the issue, the phone recording was cleared by the radio station managers and lawyers. Both nurses should have known better but are not to blame. The DJs should have known better but are not to blame. The whole thing is an utter tragedy, and it's all the fault of senior management (radio station managers maximising coverage, hospital for not bothering to train their staff to screen calls. You try getting any info over the phone from an NHS hospital! This place sounds like it's being run by amateurs.

aquarius moon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sainsburys & Tesco regularly do offers on Quorn (3 > for ?5), so much kinder to animals & a lot > healthier. > Do you people never feel guilty about eating > pheasants & mallards? > Only ask because a lot of people don't actually > think about what they are eating (eg living > creatures) because they have grown up thinking > it's ok. > > It's not ok. > > My christmas dinner will be animal/bird free, > consist of meat alternatives & I can have a good > night sleep knowing that I'm not contributing to > the murder of living things. Quorn is a highly processed food, questionable both from heath and corporate ethics stances. If you want to be truly veggie (like 1/3 of India for instance) then stick to natural pulses, dairy, eggs and tofu.

Try changing at Canada Water during the rush hour! That's a long wait.

mikeb Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lowlander, I think your link showed leaving CW on > platform 3, arriving PR on unknown platform, > leaving platform PR from 1 and arriving ND on > platform 2. > > Does anyone know which platforms the Overground > trains will use? i.e. 1 and 2 (the ones that used > to be the SLL platforms) or 3 and 4, which were > for fast trains to Victoria? Hmm, it should show platform 1. In other words the ELLX trains use the same platforms as the London Bridge platforms, not the Victoria ones.

I used to work in SW11. To get a permit involved a trip to the council offices, ???, my driver's license, proof of address, car ownership documents, and still no guarantee of a parking place. Here in SE22 there is no problem, and I park outside my house every day. Horses for courses. I am very interested in how you get workmen to plan around it! If they're there for a whole day?

Trips Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi all > > If i am coming from Canada Water on the new > Overground and I change at Peckham Rye for the > North Dulwich Train, will it be a platform miles > away or the one opposite? > > thanks for the info The timetable indicates that they're adjacent platforms - so just a 2 metre walk - http://traintimes.org.uk/canada+water/north+dulwich/13:00/2012-12-10

I'm on Upland, we get glossy magazines every three to six months, goes straight into recycling, nothing more than a glossy book of flyers. Can't remember if it's SE22, Living South or both.

Do try the WD40 trick, apply liberally, leave for a few hours, it might just work.

I have experience of buying from one or two - I got a bargain recently since the item was poorly described with free postage (was an amplifier weighing around 10kg) - so try looking at a sample of their sales on eBay to see that they are selling them properly. They need to know what they're selling. Even just adding, for example, the words "shabby chic" to a bit of furniture can double the views and final sale price. I would just take a half day to research eBay and list them myself, plenty of advice to be had on the internet including eBay itself.