*Bob*

Trip to Borough Market, carrier bag from Harrods, then to Madame Tussauds and cap the day off with a 'flight' on the London Eye. Easyjet flight home. London - tick.

egg / face

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Bob, > Those 'helpful' lesaflets have resulted in some > taking 240L wheelie bins when they wanted 23L bins > and now trying to swap them. > Oh come on, James... big deal! So 'some people' got the wrong bin! I'm a 'yellow' myself but I can see this for the bit of political merrymaking that it is. From reading your pronouncements in the Southwark News just now whilst in the chip shop - "Chaos! Confusion! Doom!" - you'd be forgiven for thinking that the world had stopped turning.

Thought-provoking stuff. Have you seen The Bo.. I mean The Drawing Room yet?

No, I'm just not a complete imbecile who appears incapable of digesting the 'confusing' information conveyed in six lines of large print and accompanied by a couple of helpful pictures - from a leaflet written in plain English.

Chocoholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- the blue box is always over flowing with recycled items. Solution: Ask for extra blue boxes. Chocoholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Are they trying to get rid of wheelie bins Answer: contained in leaflet. Read it yet?

I don't agree with that. Your issue may be 'design' and 'system' but for others it's just a case of "I'm lazy", "I Object", "I haven't even bothered to read the leaflet properly" and "I'm playing World of Warcraft".

I would have thought that you (more than most) would be happy to reorganise a little - in order to accommodate upgraded recycling facilities?! If people such as yourself begrudge doing it, then what hope is there?

That's why there's now a small brown bin - which isn't much over a foot high. It's all there in the leaflet, in black and white, with coloured pictures.

There can be no magic solution though CC. Either all the stuff is chucked conveniently together at source and then sorted at a processing plant or it's all sorted at source.. there are no other options. If you list every possible receptacle then sure, it sounds a bit mental, but with a minimum of reorganisation and thought it can be accommodated fairy easily and actually means everything takes-up less space. Nobody really *needs* the kitchen caddy (get a slide-out double bin, fit it under the kitchen sink - and line half of it with a compostable bag - Ikea did one for ?8 for example). Nobody really needs the giant brown bin (use the paper bags you mention - or there are the larger collapsable green mini 'builders-type' bags instead. Not having to sort plastics and glass has meant we've gone down from two blue boxes to one. So we have one large green bin, one small brown bin, one bag for paper and one box for empties - plus garden bags being used as and when. I prefer all of this to the one massive Addis flip-top behemoth that stank for three days out of seven.

I'd still like to have seen that fight between Alan and Attila. The poor guy needs a workout - he's been reduced to talking to himself on on the Nunhead Forum football thread for the last three weeks.

Christ on a bike, it's all really, really simple. Everybody seems to know how to set Sky+ for Strictly, roast a chicken, programme the Satnav, book a holiday on the internet, and read a bus timetable, but when it comes to the council making some dead simple changes it's suddenly too much to ask. "I just don't get it.. we have to do WHAT?!?! Arghh... my brain's exploding with these simple changes.. (BOOM)". It might not work, but on the 'confusion scale' it must register about 0.1

You can!

"One bin for garden and food waste" How is this confusing?

Expect a perilous brown mist spawned by fetid child-poo. We're doomed! Doomed!

Indeedy. The best bet, if you're unfamiliar with Macs, would be to go and use one for a few hours somewhere (shop, friend etc) and see if you like them. I do, but not everyone does (my brother didn't, and so I acquired a relatively new iBook, free of charge) I don't really have a choice as to whether I work on a Mac or not, but if I did, I'd still choose one for all those basic homely I-things people I'd want to do without needing to get too technical.

Our 'miniature brown bin' for outside has arrived! It's so small and cute.. I just want to give it a great big hug. Mmmmmm... mwah.

From what you've just described, you're a Mac-owner in waiting - with cash to buy. Website in iWeb - piece of cake Movies in iMovie - piece of cake Photos in iPhoto - there's a theme running here.. Didn't look as to whether you wanted desktop or laptop but you could afford either.. take your pick.

I know, duchess, I know. It would be so much easier if we could just pile it up on Goose Green roundabout, squirt lighter fluid on it - and burn the lot.

Most of the posts above aren't objecting.

We're part of the pilot. I guess the assumption is that that if you've removed all recyclable paper, magazines, cardboard, cans, bottles, jars, plastics - and all food waste - from what would previously have gone into your giant green wheeliebin, then what exactly would you have left to fill it with - in a fortnight? Maybe we will fill it - and then we'll object. I dunno yet. It will be interesting to see.

I OBJECT! I OBJECT! Let's object to things, before anyone's even bothered to explain in any useful detail what's actually going to happen.

Don't be too hard on the man. He's been under orders - from The Wife. We have to remind ourselves that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright.

Perhaps they'll give me an honorary degree for my work on Chucklevision?

There's no need for the dog. We sold our collection of rare Scottish lamps and now we're minted.