JohnL

If Theresa May sacrifices herself with no legacy and having done nothing in office and then her deal fails too. It might be a summary of her.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DUP not playing ball... > https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1110542 > 249715253249 That's it for May's deal then. Interesting DUP are OK with a years extension

Bercow loves it these days "Mr Bercow had told Mr Hands: ?I don?t require any help from the right honourable gentleman, the member for Chelsea and Fulham, who wouldn?t have the foggiest idea where to start.?He was once a whip, he wasn?t a very good whip, it would be better if he kept quiet.? As the Speaker was met with a loud clamour, he defended his comments, saying they were "were not outrageous at all" and adding "members could shout as much as they like" but it "wouldn't make any difference?.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I rather suspect they realise that (being crowd > estimating experts)! There were almost 300,000 in Cardiff (that'll be in St Mary Street) for the Grand Slam match according to Wales Online. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47581830

Mogg : "The choice seems to be Mrs May?s deal or no Brexit" Looks like ERG will reluctantly vote for May's deal, if it comes back. Even then not sure it has the numbers.

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pathetic. Yet again, why even bother? > alumbu Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > REMOANERS are self serving, arrogant parasites > who > > make no meaningful contribution to life in the > UK Agh that's Alumbu - new leave troll :) Now Malumbo - he's Okay.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh sorry, my message seem to have been truncated. > I resort to the BBC from time to time as you get a > wonderful/frightening polarisation of views. > Mostly throwing insults at each other. This one > tickled me/was one of the more extreme. I loved > the conjecture that those wishing to remain had no > value (or worse still actually preyed on the rest > of society). > > It's been a long day. Reported one last night for saying 'Nick Boles now has a target on his back' - checked the timeline and was full of threats of violence.

The Grand Wizards - really. The group who went to Chequers call themselves that. No wonder it was all men. Laura K just dropped it on twitter last night like an afterthought - both 'KKK' and 'Grand Wizards' trending within an hour and she's back 'oh I didn't check my twitter - I seem to have started something'

Raheem Kassam turning on Andrea Jenkins now and threatening to "release details". It's turning really nasty out there.

Angelina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I dont' think she has - and if she does, her > moment has passed and it's irrelevant. > > The vote will be for the commons to take the lead > now and what amendments > . Hope so :).

Sounds like May is giving up. She seems to have ruled out her deal (not enough support ) and no deal (not enough commons support) edit: no doubt she has some dastardly plan.

Angelina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did that really happen? > > Fkking idiot. Dan Hodges (Mail) on twitter (so could have been a personal comment to him or ..)

"It's slit wrists time" rather inappropriate comment from a minister on today's cabinet session.

teddyboy23 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Remainers now using the forces of the > supernatural.fcuk But Boris is channelling Moses.

WHat was built is common and discussed before - I guess those residents will get a bit added to their service charge to repair. We get graffiti - and cleaning that increases our charge.

"The prime minister had sent an early morning text on Friday to her fellow heads of state and government promising to find a majority for the withdrawal agreement as she left for fresh talks in Westminster." They all deleted it straight away

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think the WA is in our interests JohnL > > https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/11/23/may-s- > brexit-deal-is-a-humiliation-for-britain I was trying to be nice and balanced because I was being a little nasty to the grimes twitter account last night - but you're right, the WA is bad (as is she).

teddyboy23 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL data from parliaments petitions website > shows signatures don't know how many ,are coming > from other countries including Russia and north > Korea There are British migrants/government workers in those countries so there will be some valid votes. The below link says you need to click on the email link sent to you by the system for your vote to count so you'd need to pay a call center type of operation (not impossible) or have a load of people abroad who cared about Brexit (maybe, but even the EU has had enough) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47668946 Anyway as I said before I'm only comparing with other petitions to rule out system issues - I expect 4 million as that's what the very first petition for a new vote got (same level of interest just after the vote).

Just read someone saying if her deal was being sold by a sane person - its a WA not a future agreement It doesn't rule out customs union or single market It doesn't rule out freedom of movement It doesn't rule out ECJ jurisdiction But she constantly sells it as if it does. Maybe she is the problem

Strangely in parallel to this "Senior MPs in the cross-party group that aims to take control of the Brexit process and identify a Plan B are going to meet chief EU negotiator Michel Barnier in Brussels on Monday, the Evening Standard has learned. They will tell him that the Commons is now ready and able to deliver a stable Brexit plan independently of Mrs May." "Sir Oliver Letwin, architect of the cross-party bid to seize the Commons agenda and pass a better Brexit plan, went into the Cabinet Office this afternoon for talks with David Lidington, Mrs May?s de facto deputy. "

Sky News saying there could be a plan (backed by No10) for a commons vote on 7 options if MV3 fails. Revoke A50 2nd Referendum Mays deal Mays deal + Customs union (Corbyn) Mays deal + Customs union + single market (Corbyn+ LOL) Standard free trade agreement No deal Is that the EU plan ? I'll believe it when I see it - and she's sneaked her deal in again I notice.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > She needs to be removed. > > Is the No. 10 cat still about? Meow

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > collaborate - behave in a grown up manner - be > > able to make decisions - put the people first - > > not bicker and debase themselves - be > transparent > > - provide full and clear facts - do not tell > lies > > - do not commit to something they cannot > deliver > > > > and so on. > > > > > > basic stuff really > > It's the politicians who've not done that though, > isn't it? Not the civil servants. Civil Servants (and I know a few) have a job to do and they just do it - they don't make policy.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > There is not going to be a Revoke A50. > > > > Perhaps not. Although serious commentators (ie > David Allen Green) put the likelihood at 33.3 per > cent earlier in the week. But the purpose of the > petition is wider than that, don't you think? It > helps to focus MPs minds in the crucial days and > weeks to come on the fact that there are many and > varied options out there, and that we, the public, > are aware of this and that it's up to MPs to get > together, be courageous and look at all the > possibilities on offer. They have to shake off the > idea that TM has all the answers (or indeed any > answers). If it was done Liddington would do it IMHO If it did happen it would be very sudden and shocking - but sudden and shocking things have happened more than once in my lifetime.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jenny1 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Alan Medic Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > The two extensions offered (so far) are > > > based on the PM getting agreement to the WA > > > through the HOC, which is unlikely to happen. > > > > Doesn't the April extension apply only if the > WA > > doesn't pass? > > Yes you're right. Wouldn't make sense if it wasn't > for that reason. Seems May if going to put in > place whatever is necessary to allow both as dates > for when the UK leaves. It's like the EU bangs some sense into her then she loses it again a few days later. She was still going on about "my deal or we leave on the 12 April with no deal" this morning though.