JohnL

ANy thoughts on the "Common Market 2.0" being put forward by Letwin/Kinnock and a few others.

No Pain No Gain ;)

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > May can have a 3rd MV or even a 4th, but she must > respect the will of the British people from 3 > years ago. Yeah right. > Bercow has said he will speak on this - technically you cannot bring the same motion again and again. It would be brave of him to tell her No. ERG (those interviewed) still saying they'll vote against as "Mays deal is not Brexit"

Chaos Absolute Chaos Theresa May says there will be a long extension. Corbyn says he will take control :)

I always get the feeling that little girl isn't 100% honest and the shopkeepers being fooled. But that's terribly cynical :)

I think the leaders of countries like that might say different when they get to an EU summit than when they're with Banks and Farage down the pub (assuming the EU leaders are pushing an extension - and that means a genuine reason - note that a genuine reason if May's vote had passed would be to get the laws related to it through parliament) :) I also note that Kay Burley said to Michael Heseltine the polls hadn't changed then comes a Sky report from Derby which was 58% leave that the latest poll this weekend was 61% remain (comment: we don't totally trust in polls anymore)

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I wish politicians and pundits alike would stop > > saying that today's big vote, if won, would > take > > No Deal off the table. It won't. It would > confirm > > that there's a majority that don't want ND, but > > legally it's still there. The only way to > remove > > the threat of ND is either to agree a WA or > Revoke > > A50. An extension to A50 would merely move the > > legal default of ND from one date to another... > > > From what I read the UK won't get an extension. > > > https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/11058126 > 67384635392 A few people have suggested that may force parliament to ask TM to revoke A50.

I always thoughtthe election was influenced a little by this type of pre-election promise Cameron made (50% + discounts on buying your home if you rent from a housing association. "Those in flats will get a 50 per cent discount, plus an extra 2 per cent for every year of occupation." https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/570310/David-Cameron-home-ownership-scheme-working-people The reality was this (between 9K and 16K discount) and the scheme failed https://www.ownyourhome.gov.uk/scheme/right-to-acquire/

Spreadsheet Phil Hammond doing a good job of talking down No Deal now - but it'll just inflame the crazies :)

May and Corbyn at it like two ferrets in a sack (one with a bad voice). It isn't a good look really.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there a British version of Camel? > > We?ll probably have to substitute with Oxen or > Cows > > So boring this Brexit thing, takes away the > exoticness of being an outward looking country. > > That said, I look forward to getting some chicken > as ?loose change? Here's your Chicken Change. Here's your Chlorine

Ed Milliband - Will you come back so we can make some chaos together :)

Flashing up on screens now "ERG says vote against" The PM has failed it seems (although we've said that before).

Labour have issues - but Keir Starmer and colleagues are playing this well.

Many children like to remain 3 or 4 weeks ahead of the class (I did once when I was young and clever). So it's not always personally falling behind rather than setting an example to those that need to catch up.

Loutwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is also no evidence that the EU will extend > article 50 if this falls tonight and parliament > vote in favour of preventing ?no deal?. > > Louisa. We can revoke A50 in an emergency scenario. Vince Cable (I know :) ) sees this as a genuine possibility. EU will extend for a General Election or a Peoples Vote.

Sky News every hour makes it sound much much worse for Theresa May Some big twitter voices claiming possible GE

So Codpiece has said two things recently "Reduces the risk of being in the backstop indefinitely" - that's not going to be enough IMHO. "Bollocks" to Jon Snow :)

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vernon Bogdanor mentioned that point Alan, it > would be a great deal for NI. So good in fact that > it would upset many of the EU 27 because of the > unfair trading advantage of NI?s ?special status?. All citizens of the Island of Ireland and those eligible for an Irish Passport also get to keep freedom of movement (but as has been pointed out to me many eligible have partners etc. who won't have that right,

Okay - Companies that look forward to Brexit and think they can expand - Sky News came up with one in Derby this morning (almost like they're reading the EDF) Norton Motorbikes.

Once people stop using it due to charging ... it'll go. Don't use money a lot now - but it's not really a great moral way to go about removing ATMs

Well She's gone to Strasburg. Would be quite happy if she got stuck there in the airport for a long time (like the guy in the film)

Meanwhile back in the commons the Under secretary responded to Corbyns question and ... "Labour?s Kevin Brennan says it is customary on this occasion to says people have the monkey, not the organ-grinder. But on this occasion MPs have not even got the monkey, he says. And they have not even got the codpiece, he says."

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The EU moves in mysterious ways...:) > https://twitter.com/wabbey/status/1105131045916237 > 824 As this is a Commonwealth Service - is she saying if UK suffer then India, Australia, NZ, Canada et al should suffer with us. Edit: Actually she probably means the UK when I think about it (remainers and leavers) - but this is a Commonwealth service - so she's being downright rude in that case.

She may or may not travel to Strasburg tonight. Alternatively 'going to Strasburg' may actually be a euphemism.