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Halfway down the Standard's report ?People are so exasperated with the ERG over-playing their hand,? the minister said. ?People are now saying, ?We are done with Brexit ? let?s bin the whole project and revoke Article 50.?? https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-theresa-may-sparks-uproar-with-short-brexit-delay-days-after-her-own-deputy-said-a4096501.html

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I still maintain any talk of a short extension to > June 30th is for the birds. There's still the May > 23rd cut off for EU elections to observe. So it's > May 23rd - or a much longer and politically > difficult extension to allow for participation in > EU elections. EU seems to have confirmed this. Stated options are to May 23rd or end of 2019.

They're both saying we're in a full scale national crisis - but if we were wouldn't they co-operate with each other ?

Her reason for extending is to get her own deal through parliament. Doesn't seem like a valid reason to me. Is there something we are not being told ?

and now both Corbyn and May are off to Brussels (like two children running to mummy). Could the EU tell them you'll do this and you'll support it :)

Theresa May basically just said she's posted the letter (meaning nobody can change it now) It's so childish.

Anyway going back to the topic who's thinking of going on Saturday :)

I don't know - Labour want to negotiate their own deal in the next 3 months according to McDonnell ... remain twitter going mental because it rules out a confirmation vote.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SO24 is basically a talking shop. It seems Bercow has changed something potentially so it becomes more than that

"Mr Speaker will also hear an application from @Keir_Starmer after the three UQs asking for an emergency 🚨 SO24 debate: That this House has considered the matter of the length and purpose of the extension of the Article 50 process requested by the Government." Edit: although lots saying Labour won't back a longer extension

https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/brexit-parliament-reportedly-attempting-to-take-control-of-extension-length-20190320 Possible change - don't know what SO24 is but it's seems to be some technique to force a parliament debate - and Bercow is of course involved :)

So will their be a world cup predictor game :) Warm ups are in August and Wales seem to be playing England and Ireland home and away - not sure if England and Ireland play each other making a mini competition.

LOL Why is Darren Grimes twitter at the very top of my list every morning (and then I feel obliged to reply). He was on Sky News paper review today too - but was rather uncontroversial and didn't outdo Joanna and Martin in the throw the remote at the TV reaction.

Oh and the point is sensible - and I've heard when backbench MP's try to do similar they are told they can't - the government (especially the May government) just expects it can do what it wants. I can't believe they claim they didn't see it coming - even I thought it was a possibility.

I think he's correct on the technical point and he has always been pro parliament standing up against the executive. Some previous speakers (Michael Martin, George Thomas) have been rather sycophantic towards the government - this one has always been the opposite even before Brexit. I think history might have hardened his attitude. He had another a great argument with Leadsom (which has been ongoing for a while)

Angelina Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, if Bercow is an EU puppet, as suggested above > - what does the recent news mean in terms of > underhand strategy? I think he's just pro parliament and anti government. He hasn't liked the government since they tried to get rid of him the last day of the 2015 parliament and Labour found out just in time and rescued him. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/26/tory-backbench-rebellion-defeats-hagues-attempt-to-unseat-speaker-john-bercow

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mags Court. My guess would probably be the latter. Of course - meaning chief magistrate. Now some yellow vests have invaded the Attorney Generals office shouting "Anna Soubry is a Nazi" - why do they pick on her ?

"This sort of behaviour will not be tolerated?

Chaos at James Goddards trial (over the Soubry affair). All his friends shouted at the judge then got into the dock with him. Judge walked out. Contempt or will they just let it go ?

teddyboy23 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He's one of the EUs bitches smug little c..t When I was in KCL he was always around as a leader of the Federation of Conservative Students and was a right wing libertarian. https://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2006/07/the_federation_.html He then allegedly met his wife and changed (I remember his reply to the question about having a B*ll*cks to Brexit sticker on his car - he replied "Its my wifes car").

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it all hail John Bercow? > > With his ruling that MPs cannot be repeatedly > asked to vote on the same question in a > Parliamentary session, and the fact that the vote > for a second referendum that occurred last week > was rejected, then does his ruling also preclude a > new vote on a second referendum in this > parliamentary session ? > > It may well be by supporting one course of action, > he has closed off another 😱 Some are saying that - but I think that as an amendment it isn't the same - I'm sure Bercow said something along those lines. I think the best chance of a vote at the moment lies with the Kyle-Wilson amendment to any deal. But the truth is I don't know :)

The Sunderland marchers were resting on the lorry hired by led by donkeys yesterday - is that a truce :)

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bercow has basically nipped May's efforts to > blackmail her party and the DUP in the bud. And he > has done it for the integrity of Parliament over > personal privilege (and peerage). Yes it is > controversial, but these are extraordinary times. All Hail John Bercow - the only guy in politics I remember from university politics (he was right wing then)

She's creating a backstop - another one. She hopes to agree with the EU that if her deal passes somehow there's a short technical extension of A50 and if her deal doesn't pass the UK falls into the backstop of an longer extended A50 until her deal passes or we come up with something new.

Lowlander Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only they don't have the majority for a Queen's > speech to re-open parliament :-) Oh that's the plan prorogation and new session - at least it's not prorogation full stop. Just a few more Tories peeled off and they certainly wouldn't especially if the new Queens speech was just Mays deal. Dodgy ground.