JohnL

The laws strict if it gets applied - section 4 (or 5) makes being threatening or insulting someone a crime with no violence to the person required to convict. In the Ben Stokes case after they described Stokes rolling around on the floor with the 2 other guys and after that they backed off and said they'd had enough, at the same time his friend told him to lay off. The prosecutor then said in court if it had stopped then we wouldn't be here. (all taken from the press) I wondered why they wouldn't have been there on lesser charges (unless he meant Crown Court). So I think it depends on the police, the victim and the evidence to convict. These days the CPS decides whether to prosecute but back in the day (maybe the above incident) the police decided whether to prosecute.

The only thing worse than someone wearing flip flops to work is when they take them off :)

Is that just for the men though ? To be honest women wear shorter dresses to work than men do shorts (which would normally be almost to the knee).

I saw Police wearing shorts last week in a pub in Waterloo. So if they do we all can :) About an inch above the knee, Chino style, short socks but NOT shiny black shoes - need something mid way between black trainers and shoes ... IMHO

I notice the ex-boss of Wigan Rugby league is Shaun Wane He really needs to go out for a drink with Shane Warne

yeknomyeknom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wouldn?t advise having your phone on view on the > street to be honest. > > Robert Poste's Child Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Mine's just a simple panic button that makes a > > loud noise, bit like having a rape alarm on > your > > phone, but there are other apps out there that > you > > can set up to send your GPS location to > nominated > > contacts and call emergency services for you. > It > > looks like some of them you could set up to > > activate by voice or shaking the phone. Might > have > > to get one of those. Every time someone says that I have to say I won't be cowed - no point in having a mobile if you can't use it :) Don't text whilst walking is better advice IMHO - stop and note whats around you before using your phone - or hands free.

The heat maybe :)

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "A few friends of mine and myself conducted a > little unofficial study on being ignored by staff > in a local wine shop/ eatery that has now changed > hands three times. The time taken to be > acknowledged seemed to be related to gender and > age in the main...there were other factors. There > was also a marked difference to attitudes to > retuning wine that we said was ?off? or ?corked?, > not part of the study, but three of us used the > place to buy wine and we all had returned a bad > bottle." > > > > I've been drinking wine for many, many years and > don't think I've ever come across a corked > bottle... I have corked many a bottle ... but most people don't notice - anyway it's mostly screw top now :) (this assumes corked means you've screwed the corkscrew in so far it goes right through the cork and as such some cork might end up in the wine)

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheCat Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > For example, one might be happy to support the > > view that it is minorities who suffer more at > the > > hands of prejudice, but if one cant express a > view > > that (on occasion) they have also suffered in > some > > way (even though they are a > > man/white/rich/straight) without being met with > > incredulity about how they could possibly ever > > understand suffering because they are a > > man/white/rich/straight.....then doesn't that > > breed resentment? and lead to disinterest in > > people being willing to listen to stories about > > the suffering of others, because no one > listened > > to theirs? > > I entirely agree, I think problems arise when > people start pushing the idea of an equivalence, > e.g. men suffer just as much oppression from women > as vice versa, racism is just as bad for white > people etc. That negates the reality of all > experiences and is often used as an excuse to > continue bad behaviour: "they" are just as bad as > "us", "we" suffer just as much as "them", so you > can't blame "us" for carrying on. That's true, but I go on the equality act legally. (1)Race includes? (a)colour; (b)nationality; ©ethnic or national origins. We don't have to use the term racism though.

Ahh Thanks .. I mix up my supermarkets again.

Reports of police knocking them off and chasing them now. A Sainsbury's lorry also crossed the road to block another lot (don't think citizens can run into them but you can block them)

It's not Papillon but Tommy's days inside are already leaked (with a bit of licence). "There's no TV, Can I have a TV?" "Sorry we can't have a TV in here because you'll disturb the people in the cell next door" "What's next door ?" "The Mosque"

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If an exchange burnt down, yes you would lose > service until it was replaced. A resilient network > is wholly different from a switch site. BT has > emergency mobile switches but it is a non trivial > engineering problem to switch these in. Network > resilience sits behind local switches and last > mile access. LOL - BT side isn't my thing - I've rung them when they're digging holes reminding them of their SLA and had the reply (in a west country accent) - "what do you expect me to do whip them".

JaneB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am not surprised that travellers are using the > site as a dump as it looked totally derelict > anyway. It?s my view that BT has failed in its > duty to manage the site properly. It also seems > to me that there must be a work around solution to > the problem so exchange services could be offered > via another route? You'd expect so - Networks is all about resiliency - if the exchange burnt down the companies can't just stop services until it's rebuilt.

peckham_ryu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'd report it and tick the "In my perception > the > > crime was a hate crime" checkbox - police are > then > > obliged to investigate. > > To be fair, the police are no more or less obliged > to investigate than if you report being punched in > the face for any other reason, or for no reason at > all. Specifically reporting it as racially > motivated gets it added to the relevant crime > statistics, is the main effect. > > The legal implication is that the Courts must > treat it as an aggravating factor when sentencing > - but that?s about what happens in Court rather > than what Plod recorded in the crime report. > > Anyway, appalled to hear there are thugs randomly > punching folks in the neighbourhood. I hope they > don?t play on your mind OP, you were so unlucky to > be near these morons at the wrong time. Hope you > recover fast and enjoy the rest of summer! Yes - the word obliged was a wrong maybe but I think it's reports like the below I've heard in terms of prioritising where any hate crime is labelled as a serious offence https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41633205 Anyway I'd say always report what you perceive even if it's corrected by people who may know better about these things - and because of the language used in this one I'd tick the box.

goods train ?

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > uncleglen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > about time- he has only EVER told the TRUTH > > > I would have time for him if he was truly > attacking religious extremism and child abuse > equally. > > But he?s not. > > He?s only focused on Muslims. > > Do you wonder why he never mentions the abuses by > the Catholic Church, for example? Or the bigotry > found within Hindu fundamentalists? > > Do you wonder why he?s only interested in > targeting Islam, while excusing a pedophile friend > of his? > Google Richard Price. It won't end with the moslems. If the alt right are in a pub they'll talk to me if I don't say much - so I know some of the views they have.

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Oh Gawd he's out - re-trial. > > You're unhappy about his being bailed? Personally yes because I don't like his brand of politics - legally the appeal court had a point but most of us wouldn't get that justice - he has top lawyers retained paid for by The Middle East Forum (an anti islamic group in the states). https://www.meforum.org/ "The full resources of the Middle East Forum were activated to free Mr. Robinson. We: Conferred with his legal team and made funding available to them; Funded, organized and staffed the large ?Free Tommy? London rallies on June 9 and July 14 (see The Times, The Guardian, and the Independent); Funded travel by Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) to London to address the rally; and Urged Sam Brownback, the State Department?s ambassador for International Religious Freedom, to raise the issue with the UK?s ambassador." "The Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum promotes American interests and works to protect Western civilization from the threat of Islamism."

I'd report it and tick the "In my perception the crime was a hate crime" checkbox - police are then obliged to investigate.

LOL I saw someone riding up the pavement on a yellow bike yesterday - swerving left and right. Realised they have a light (and maybe a dynamo)

Oh Gawd he's out - re-trial.

Foxton's has made a loss and a large fall in sales too. Maybe that new Rye Lane branch won't last (not that I know how well any specific branch does).

Citizens Advice Bureau It's a bit go to - but at least they will know the other organisations that will help for free - but don't let emotions overcome it - it's a business transaction and if you're owed money you're owed money.

You want a third party really as the emotions need to be taken out of the situation. You don't want to pay for a third party so CAB or organisations in the previous thread. On another note - small companies outsource HR to avoid this sort of situation which just is embarassing.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On that note. Anyone sitting on ?1m equity who > doesn't sell before March 2019 may well find > themselves sitting on ?750K equity soon after. > Sell now unless you can afford to lose that kind > of money. You can always buy back in a couple of > years later and actually turn a profit. I really hope March 2019 becomes just another date in the calendar.