JohnL

Anyway back to Theresa May who has this morning been accused of demeaning the office of Prime Minister by asking people to "imagine the Labour leader ?naked and alone? in the EU negotiating chamber." OoohErrr

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > This piece would suggest otherwise. > > While it states that wealthy families in Saudi > etc. still provide a small amount of funding, good > headway was made to put a stop to this. > > The extent to which ISIS gets funding from > elsewhere and the diversity of funding sources is > rather unnerving. > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/1 > 1/18/how-isis-makes-its-money/?utm_term=.9d2a2ea53 > e5e But how can they spend this money (unless they are self sufficient). You can have all the gold, oil, paper money you want but if nobody will sell anything to you it's worth nothing. Just put a virtual wall around IS and come back in 10 years.

What is it with idiots asking for figures off the top of peoples head at the moment. Right Admin - how many users were logged on here at 21 October 2013 Come on Come on :). You'd look it up not have it at the top of your head - it's the internet/syslog era. (Edit: in response to outrage at Corbyn forgetting a figure on Woman's Hour)

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Firstly Jeremy Corbyn's approach to combating ISIS > abroad is to "cut of arms and funding" for ISIS. > Let's start unpacking that. The international > coalition against ISIS have been "cutting off arms > and funding" for ISIS since the very beginning of > their campaign against them. What people do not > seem to understand, no matter how many times it is > plainly explained, is that Islamic State do not > receive huge amounts of external funding. > > The vast majority of IS wealth comes from robbery, > extortion, oil revenue, taxation and kidnapping. > Less than 5% of Islamic State's revenue comes from > donations, those donations are from private > citizens and are very difficult to trace. Saudi > Arabia and the Gulf States are categorically not > funding Islamic State, they are part of the > anti-IS coalition and are actively fighting > Islamic State. Anyone found guilty of financing > Islamic State in one of those countries would be > imprisoned for a very long time. So talking about > arms deals to Saudi Arabia doesn't change anything > with regards to ISIS, no matter how many times > leftists write articles about it. > > Now onto arms, ISIS have a lot of weaponry, the > vast majority of it stolen. They have stolen it > from the US-backed Iraqi army, they have stolen > them from Gulf-armed rebel groups, they have > stolen them from the Russian backed Assad regime. > There are no large convoys of arms coming in to > Islamic State territory from neighbouring > governments. If there were, it would require air > strikes to destroy those convoys, air strikes > which Jeremy Corbyn has promised to end. > > Therefore the idea that Jeremy Corbyn is going to > stop ISIS by stopping fantasy revenue funds it > does not receive and arms shipments that do not > exist is as fanciful as trying to chop down an oak > tree by strangling it. It will not work, it is not > grounded in reality. However instead of mocking > his answers the British public loudly applaud him > because they do not understand this. Then, when > this is pointed out by those who understand the > situation, they are then called Tories or > imperialists or war mongers simply for pointing > out the facts. > Leaked from Hillary's email server last year ?We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to Isis and other radical groups in the region.? Looks like a direct repost to what your friend says http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

She really will get done over by the EU negotiators I think - unless Boris or Davis can help somehow. Can't see how they can go well - as Paxman said (in so many words) - they know she has a history of U turning if things don't go well.

Guy in the audience tries to lead a standing ovation (conveniently right in front of camera) but gets stranded alone and has to sit down Embarrassing and possibly a plant

Corbyn win Whether that will translate to votes I don't know Best line "A blowhard who collapses at the first sound of gunfire" cruel

Don't forget Salt brings out the natural flavour in things But we aren't supposed to are we :)

Politics is just about who can make the most brazen lie it seems.. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/robert-peston-bangs-head-on-desk-with-frustration-after-sir-michael-fallon-interview-a3551121.html

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > jaywalker Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Tory lead has halved again now to only 5% in > the > > poll in the Times today - they are projected > now > > to lose seats: poll suggests a majority of only > 2. > > Pound is falling sharply. > > Every time there's any increased likelihood of JC > and his ex Diane getting into power, the pound > falls sharply. Hardly news and hardly any > surprise now is it?! That's because of more uncertainty/hung parliament The markets wanted a soft brexit and hoped a large majority would see to that.

Trump on Germany "Bad, Very Bad" "Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, terrible we'll stop it" Trump misses something here - People want German cars.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Most supermarket fruit and veg is > tasteless/unripe. Avocados that would break > windows. Ripen in the box fruit that you could > use for hard core in the road. Trouble is > shoppers buy them. > > You will see me outside the supermarket on Forest > Hill Road having a good feel of the melons > (actually the smell is more important). And > groping other exotic fruit. Nothing like a ripe > pair of plums. > > Best spuds - Warsaw. Best exotic fruit? Bali. > Best tomatoes? Bulgaria. All a bit far. Best > strawberries - PYO from my childhood. > > Would love suggestions on varieties of spuds and > where to get them. I hate anything ripe - avocado's need to be rock hard for me to buy them. Maybe it's memories of people eating black spotted bananas when I was a boy YUCK.

Winder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Can we have our police back now please? > > Had the Manchester atrocity happened 3 weeks > earlier, I wonder how many manifestos would have > featured a cutback in the foreign aid budget to > fund anti-terrorism at home. I don't know whether I've always misunderstood foreign aid. But it's there for British interests not as some gift. India asked us to stop giving aid but we refused. "Last week India rejected the British-built Typhoon jet as preferred candidate for a ?6.3 billion warplane deal, despite the Development Secretary, Andrew Mitchell, saying that Britain?s aid to Delhi was partly ?about seeking to sell Typhoon.?" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9061844/India-tells-Britain-We-dont-want-your-aid.html

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > interesting that since the recent opinion polls > all the tinfoil hatted Canary led - "fake polls" > "all owned by tories" garbage has disappeared off > Social Media The controversy IIRC was how "Don't Knows" were allocated. Maybe "Don't Knows" are now falling. Although 5 will probably be as close as he comes I'd think.

Corbyn has made a speech on Security - and it wasn't bad. The old guy thrives in this type of campaign - May (probably will still win) but she made a mistake here.

She's gone from LBC Daily Mail still supports her.

Bush dismisses it as "a mistake" now. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/04/iraq-war-bush-isis I'm old enough to remember way back to Afghanistan being invaded by the Soviet Union and Mujahideen being used as "proxies" between the US and USSR - that perhaps was the original root.

It's just like that Sainsburys TV advert. I knew he was a bad dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYeuGuiExwk

Actually maybe it's because customers place more importance on texture and look than taste ??

I mint them way too much :)

http://www.snopes.com/manchester-attack-false-flag/ A CNN analyst did however say early on there was a small chance of the attack being a false flag. What he mean't however was that right wingers in Germany planned an attack to 'frame' muslims and raised the possibilty of it in this case - obviously this was quickly proved to be not true. A case of an analyst being too clever almost. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldier-syria-refugee-false-flag-terror-attack-posing-arrested-frankfurt-france-bavaria-a7705231.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldiers-false-flag-arrests-refugees-assassinate-plot-far-right-left-wing-politicians-terror-a7726676.html

Mentioned here http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/manchester-bombing-twitter-prediction_uk_5923df8fe4b034684b0f4954 But could have been US time.

Different people deal with thinks in different ways - sometimes even laughing/joking is a response to fear.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ???? Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > jaywalker Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > The clip of May's interview on news.sky.com > > has > > > > really made my afternoon. Well done to the > > > press > > > > for not letting her off the hook. > > > > > > > > > I thought they were all Tory Lapdog/Murdoch > > MSM > > > etc? > > > > > > So, from my point of view, from thinking we > had > > > just one incompetent at the head of a major > > > political party I see it's now 2! > > > > > > Oh happy days > > > > and Tim Farron (still banging on/being banged > on > > about faith) and Paul Nuttall (who scored hat > > trick for Spurs at the weekend) > > > > Is Tim Farron still banging on about faith? From > what i've seen he's been doing a pretty decent job > in recent weeks, and to my eyes their manifesto is > the best of the bunch. Abortion when I last heard - The interviewers start it but maybe he should ignore it. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lib-dem-leader-tim-farron-christian-faith-refuses-say-abortion-wrong-sky-sophy-ridge-a7747226.html Edit: to be honest "Mr Farron, who has made no secret of his Christian faith, replied" is a bit suspect in tone.

David Moyes has resigned. I keep hearing the Stormzy lyric "I come to your team and I f*ck sh*t up, I'm David Moyes".