JohnL

Borky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > a free market does not trump basic maths I don't bet so I wouldn't know :) but I suppose the customer gambles the bookie doesn't.

Gatland for years was of the school of thought that you kicked the ball 50m in play then turn it over when the opposition run back at you. So you don't see a lot of balls kicked into touch. But thought that might change with the Lions.

Borky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A bookmaker does not have an opinion after a > market has initially been made, they are neither > right or wrong. Anything suggesting the contrary > in the bright sparkly light of knowledge is utter > stupidity and show a basic lack of understanding > of how things work. It's a free market surely the bookie wants people to bet - but also must make money. So sets the odds in order to do both. Do betfair have odds - that's a slightly different system ?

Trinnydad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Come on, May saying she'll 'rip up the human > > rights act' is just ridiculous politicking and > has > > no bearing on what's happened. > > Naturally, she's wanting to hoover up the Kipper > votes. But she can't just say it to pick up votes then not do it .... can she :) ?

steveo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > She could still thread a sentence together better > than Trump But Trump can tweet like a monster. International relations by tweet

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The bookies have got it right more times than the > pollsters have, AND YET people on here are using > the narrowing of the polls (despite 2015) to talk > up some dramatic outcome. It won't happen. UK > bookmakers have not always got it right, but when > it comes to GE results, they've not missed out on > the majority party since 74. Ignore them by all > means, but they're considerably more reliable > indicators than any other. Nothing is of course > full proof. > > Louisa. Even so. Let us have our moment. It's crushing when that exit poll comes out if you're not a Tory.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I were to blame anyone it would be Sexton for > the garryowen which led to lost possession and > their try. Those high balls just seem like 50/50 > so much of the time. Why risk losing the ball? A > kick for terratory would have been a better > option. Or, I could blame Best for that last line > out throw though I don't know for sure that he > didn't throw it where he intended to and it was > the jumper's mistake. > > I can't see Nowell getting near the test team but > apart from him I didn't see anyone have a poor > game. Has Gatland told them to keep the ball in play - but then he always says he tells them to play what's in front of them. It's an old story - and I still don't know.

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Each of you middle class lefties and keyboard > warriors should put your money where your mouth > is. I'm particularly talking about those of you > who over the last few days have been whipping > yourselves into something resembling teenage > schoolboy arousal about the 'closing' of the gap > in the polls. It's more getting rid of May I think - The NYT says what fits with many peoples view - that May is quite horrible. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/opinion/jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-britain-election-brexit.html?mcubz=2

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Oh dear. It's that time of year again when us > > Welsh take the blame :( Gatland's from NZ by > the > > way. > > > > Lions didn't really play that badly. Saturday > > important now. > > I'm not blaming the Welsh! Except for Liam > Williams, he was lucky to get away with the first > hit in the air, to do a second one a minute later > was idiotic and deserved the card. Seeing tweets about welsh management (Warrenball) and too many Welsh players already. To paraphrase someone We need to stick together and be Strong (and Stable) - it's not lost yet.

Well I didn't vote in 2015 but I'm voting this time - just behind my flat, closer than the pub. I remember sitting in the Montpelier when that exit poll came in and knowing it was all over for EdM straight away.

I have a suspicion it is something real (and anything mental is real to) and haven't felt she's 'right'.

Maybe it's time to allow voting from PC, iPad and PS4s/Xbox and the like.

Oh dear. It's that time of year again when us Welsh take the blame :( Gatland's from NZ by the way. Lions didn't really play that badly. Saturday important now.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A bit late in the game for a substitute, had to be > done though. > > Is there enough time to reassure the voting masses > that Lyn Brown is up to it? Tories on my Twitter timeline have accused her of kicking a blind mans dog :( Hope it's a load of rubbish

Labour canvassers seem to think they're in trouble in the swing seats :( Also don't they open the postal votes - remember reading something about it in 2015

She's out Sick leave without any return date. Lyn Brown now Shadow Home Sec. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/07/diane-abbott-to-step-aside-for-the-period-of-her-ill-health-corbyn-says

Some lovely Warrenball from the Lions there Round the corner ... repeat :)

Maybe - she shouldn't get drawn into the detail then - There's something uncomfortable in my view about the way she's being demonised (Sky just did it again - "someone like Diane Abbott") - but she'll recover :) I'm not usually that PC either - if someone says check your privilege - I normally say - yeah, I've got it :)

All I can say is that when I used to watch her as part of that double act with Michael Portillo on This Week, she was able to talk well and coherently. Maybe her willingness to talk about detail - when someone like May doesn't ever go into detail is the issue.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dianne's trouble is she's had it too good for too > long, with a nice comfy seat. And who wouldn't > enjoy that, along with sending her boy to private > shool. > > Only now she gets a shot at the bigger stage, and > she's unfit for the gig at hand. All the years of > defending 'the party' and saying 'MANDATE' as many > times as a human being can, have left her thin on > policy matters, and here right now is when policy > matters matter. > > She might have been able to guff her way through > meetings with her own party, constituency, on a TV > debate. But the nitty gritty is beyond her and > she's been found out. > > Plus she's developed that slow-slow style of > answer, which under pressure just comes across as > time wasting. > > Lastly, she's irritating beyond measure, she knows > it, and plays on it. I'm not qualified to know what's culture and what's just her - Lots of Jamaicans I speak to speak to speak very slowly and I have read that she works very hard and well between giving bad interviews It did feel a little racist this morning when two posh white people (Keir Starmer being interviewed by Sarah Jane Mee) were talking about her with her having no ability to respond.

Everyone thinks she's pretending to be ill - but I see signs of stress and distress and I'm beginning to hate the term "car crash interview". It can't be nice when you're portrayed as a national joke.

Lordship 516 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Daddys lecturing again - we all share the same > > pubs and we have people like this lecturing us. > > Sorry - I thought that I might be entitled to > express my opinion & beliefs as well as the > freedom to express my abhorrence at the views of > others. > > I shouldn't wish to be your daddy..! I'm talking to the guy who said I was using the deaths of 7 people to get a pointy across

We need Police on the beat who stop off at places including the local mosques - but this forum has become nasty and aggressive tonight. So I'm out. The below is patronizing and obnoxious - we are not children on this forum "Now ask yourslf- what is there to stop six of them, with knives crashing a hired van into a crowd say coming out of a big sporting event like Wimbledon?"

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Accusing someone of using an attack that murdered people to further there own agenda is pretty nasty IMHO