JohnL

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > https://www.globalresearch.ca/politics-corruption- > who/5702045 > > It feels nonsensical to me to ignore issues > around the WHO. As this article says of course > there needs to be collaboration between other > organisations, its when it becomes a conflict of > interest that the purpose of the organisation no > longer holds true. That's from the same group I think Most of the whois entry is "Redacted for Privacy Purposes" and if you look at the host server it has other sites like "b3l6pl5.vip" which all link to "蜘蛛池搭建/出租 QQ:3187697228" which I'm not clicking on LOL.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seabag Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > New (Mad Scientist as I like to call it) > Scientist > > this month has a pretty in depth coverage of > all > > you might need or want to know on the subject. > > > > Last month it had the word Zoonotic in there, > > which if never heard until then. I also > morbidly > > thought ?what if that?s the last new word I > ever > > learned > > You did not read my message on the 21st Feb > referring to 'zoonotics'. > Here is a list of the nasties. > https://www.healthline.com/health/zoonosis > > What 'bugs' me (pun intended) is that the > 'elderly' are being told to stay indoors....this > of course gives the false impression that the > 'young' can go about their business as usual. I > wonder if these super-spreaders are the people who > cough and splutter and wipe their snotty hands > everywhere. My OH came back from Clapton, (by > public transport), last night having been to a > 'gathering' from all over London. He came in and I > said ' can you wash your hands please'. 'What > for?' came the reply..we truly are doomed Interviews with young people in Rome basically all said "we're going to be OK". This is a taste of any future emergency where it will be everyone for themselves I guess.

They're going into hospitals to nick the hospital hand sanitizers now. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/hand-sanitiser-coronavirus-covid19-hospitals-a4380921.html

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think its a case of checking fact or information > given as facts, once over the first paragraph > there is factual history. I was not going to put > this link above as > as conspiracy is such a "crazy" idea, its a long > article but I found it to be interesting. The theme is that Bill Gates created COVID-19 for experimentation it seems (the rest is just a nice story of things that happen in life). A man being a high performing alcoholic (think of those around Blair at the top of their powers), a woman being sacked (happens all the time), Ebola vaccine (good idea) https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/guide-right-wing-media-coronavirus-reactions-and-conspiracy-theories This debunks some of it. Some are based on a Dean Koontz novel https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-coronavirus-koontz-book/partly-false-claima-1981-book-predicted-the-coronavirus-2019-outbreak-idUSKCN20M19I

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/06/biogen-workers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-transmission-linked-to-leadership-meeting/ "Biogen?s CEO, chief financial officer, and head of research and development were among those at a corporate meeting last week attended by eight people who later tested positive for the novel coronavirus, and the company said it has taken aggressive steps to prevent other employees from falling ill." But today it appears they have - this virus is fast - if this was the first set of cases people would be saying Biotech hmmmm https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/what-we-know-about-the-coronavirus-cases-linked-to-biogens-boston-meeting/2086974/

cactus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm a bit confused! Totally on board with the hand > washing etc, but at the same time we're told that > transmission via surfaces is still quite unlikely, > and we're most likely to pass it on/catch it from > close contacts, ie family and friends ... I'd say if you touch a surface then touch your eyes (or face) that's the risk. if you touch a surface and wash hands then touch your face you're OK. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/health/coronavirus-how-it-spreads.html

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some responses to this virus are borderline > hysterical. Everybody has to assess their own risk and risk of those close to them. I still would feel comfortable popping down the pub and local shops.

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wish the Gov would do more re containmemt .So > far this seems to have concentrated on > quarantining 2 groups back from Wuhan and one from > the Diamond Princess .And contact tracing . > > I wish they would take steps to stop large groups > of people gathering - Crufts ,Cheltenham . > > Is it just me ? They seem to be saying they haven't reached that point yet. England - Wales rugby still goes ahead.

OK Government Experts are consistently saying mortality rate globally is 1% whilst all the monitoring sites (like the ones below say over 3%. https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 http://nssac.bii.virginia.edu/covid-19/dashboard/ I assume this is as cases are under-reported (and that's a fair assumption) but they aren't explaining their figures clearly on the news channels and it leaves the impression they are pulling figures from the air.

Read this from 2017 about Spanish Flu again recently and it does give you the lesson not to underestimate these things. "Initially the 1918 pandemic set off few alarms, chiefly because in most places it rarely killed, despite the enormous numbers of people infected. Doctors in the British Grand Fleet, for example, admitted 10,313 sailors to sick bay in May and June, but only 4 died. It had hit both warring armies in France in April, but troops dismissed it as ?three-day fever.? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/

I don't get panic buying So are people scared - they won't be able to go out for fear of contamination - shop workers won't get to work as they can't go out so stores will close - production of things will stop as the producers aren't working - something like Stephen King's The Stand - other people will panic buy first and there'll be nothing left

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL do you work for the national press as you > seem to be falling into their domain of spreading > fear and panic over Covid-19 ? > > So far numbers of cases in the UK are relatively > low and whilst the very worst case scenario could > see over a period of time that a majority of > people will catch it (much like colds and Flu's) > we won't all be down with it at the same time, > public & emergency services may have peaks and > troughs in numbers but things will still work to a > good degree. > > Whilst I am concerned it's an unknown strain of > coronavirus, we shouldn't panic (yet) and good > hygiene, not going to work / school / out if > people aren't feeling well and making sure > unnecessary personal contact (hugging, Hand > shaking ...) is kept to a minimum then hopefully > it will pass by with minimal impact on most > people. I'm IT but I am a bit of a pessimist in general - I have worked for media in the past, maybe I picked something up - there certainly used to be a lot of swearing when systems failed LOL. But actually the news is not all negative as control measures are working in China so they will work here - they need to be strict however. I see working from home if you can (I am most days now), compulsory hand washes throughout the day etc. appearing.

Metro have used Sainsbury's ED as an example of panic buying "Even fresh food is running low at a Sainsbury?s in East Dulwich, London" https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/04/panic-buying-begins-britain-rice-pasta-pot-noodle-stocks-running-low-12345052/

Worryingly the mortality is now set at 3.4% - varies depending on the standard of healthcare. There are also two separate strains of this virus L type and S type with L being more aggressive. The good new is that measures to contain it (as used in China) seem to work. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html

"I was at a hospital where there were a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody" Boris Johnson

Sometime people bully because of the pressure they're under from above, whatever, the leader of the organisation has to be the one to make a stand against bullying at all levels. That means you Boris (or maybe Dom).

nxjen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dbboy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > She's 31, nearly half his age, what was she > ever > > thinking when she let him shaft her?? > > Oh don?t, this news item is making me nauseous > enough already. It's even made the Daily Mail nauseous https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8063043/STEPHEN-GLOVER-pray-end-Boris-bounder.html

Trustpilot reviews are very hit and miss - difficult to say reading them. I notice no replies to the comments. https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/sharkvacuum.co.uk?page=3

Shivering swan1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I find it quite appalling that the staff went on > strike at the Ivy House over pay and conditions. > I'll wager that they were already being paid a > decent barstaff wage with it being community > owned, rather than a ruthless pubco like Young's. > I'd have dismissed them all on the spot. Many pubs I go to have told me that with the East European staff exodus bar staff aren't as easy to come by these days. If we have to pay more for bar staff due to supply and demand then prepare to pay slightly more for a pint (I notice I'm already paying ?6 plus in some pubs)

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The huge empty space in front of the bar doesn't > help. I wonder why the tables seem to be arranged > all around the edge. > Not visited yet but I will - Some pubs move tables later in the evening to cater for the drinkers who like to stand and mill around once the eaters go home. Tables and when to move them is a big thing really when you think about it.

Is it still generally accepted that you don't announce a pregnancy until 3 months in (I'm single you see so wouldn't know)

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, the Contain, Delay, Research, Mitigate has > been the approach for the last few weeks, so > nothing new their. Hancock creeped Marr out for nothing then :) More importantly locally - a case at Wimbledon College.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was a rumour that he hid away for a couple > of weeks due to having a black eye. Maybe he had > no option but to announce it. Remember > Camberwellgate? Another that he was paid an advance on a book that needed to be written soon.

The Uber Eats guy seems to be delivering to Seabass Cycles in the advert (Camberwell Branch)

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Out of interest, what area IS affordable for > working-class Londoners in London? Boris's government is supposed to be giving a right to a shared buy for housing association tenants. This may mean the taking of housing associations into the public sector. Owning outright is no longer possible unless you have a big deposit and good income and 30-40 years to pay it back :( https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/shared-ownership-right-to-buy-still-planned-by-government-despite-manifesto-omission--65039