Louisa

Stacey-lyn I am back on the bourgeoise bandwagon do not fret :) steveo this sounds like my kind of place. Sofas, champagne by the case behind the bar. Just what I'm used to. I for one cannot what for this. I just hope Eric junior doesn't choose to alter the name, it holds a special place in my heart. Louisa.

This thread is really upsetting me. Feeling emosh. Louisa.

I have had a polite word with Pauline and threatened to tell the Scouser boss about her diabolically loud voice. I hope it helps, if not, I'm sending in *Bob*. Louisa.

I have to back UncleBen. I had what I believed to be an overpriced below average and late arriving full-English there shortly after it first opened one Sunday. This could have been forgiven if the service was upto scratch, but it wasnt. Never been back since. Louisa.

John exactly I can think of far worse examples of chain shops, and judging by their website they are not at all widespread across London or the rest of the country. Jeremy it's not a wind up at all, just a rumour I had heard from a few friends one of whom had spoken with a person employed at one of the branches. It may well not come to anything, lets face it, as pointed out already, this area is hardly a coffee/bakery desert. As for the location I just guessed the former 'soup dragon' premises purely because of the change of use for the shop on the southwark planning application. Louisa.

A closet working class northern boy shrouded in southern wealth. A complicated chipped shoulder, one which isn't easy to shift. I somehow suspect you have more than a hint of envy at his position of power, one which could make or break the Pauline Fowler wannabe with the annoying voice. So close but not cigar reeko. It must be frustrating. Louisa.

Stop swearing Jah Lush :) Louisa.

Yes common and proud, but equally has a decent job and can afford to indulge himself. It's a bit of a catch twenty two really. Despite the comfortable economics of his situation, he clearly has a hard to shift scouse accent judging by your description. This is an awkward situation. I genuinely believed we only had three classes, but according to recent studies we now have seven. I even had to tweak my own class test just so I could get the answer I wanted. This is all getting slightly confusing but, my point is, if he is from a 'Technical Middle Class' background he is basically a working class northerner who has landed on his feet with a decent job. He will therefore not understand or take kindly to accent based mocking or be somewhat sympathetic to the Pauline Fowler wannabe in your office, in which case you may need to alter your argument about her uncanny resemblance to said fictional working class hero. Louisa.

Emanuelle. Louisa.

Reeko, apology accepted. I'm glad you take an equal opportunities approach to class based stereotypes, and thank you for pointing out other allegedly grating minor celebrity voices. I for one find a certain national weather presenter rather annoying, he's just very monotone, by the by of course. Does your co-workers boss has his teeth professionally bleached or does he use those tip-ex style paint jobbies from boots? He may well be 'Technical Middle Class' in which case complaining may not help. Studies have shown that those falling into said category tend to have the disposable income to engage in self-gratifying pastimes, but they lack in 'cultural capital' and so may not take too kindly to any complaints you may have, especially accent based ones. Just thought I'd better let you know. Good luck anyway. Louisa.

Applespider Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > More upmarket than Greggs/Upper Crust and less > upmarket than Gails/Le Pain Quotidien Fits perfectly into the demographic then, because Dulwich Village already has a Gail's. http://www.gailsbread.co.uk/?CategoryID=301#dulwich Louisa.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > (The only reason the working class London accent > ie cockney accent, is irritating is because it has > been sanitised out of TV except for screeching and > hysterics in East Enders and gangster thug types > in Danny Dyer and Vinny Jones films. Everyone has > been conditioned to think BBC English=good, > regional accents= dubious characters (when in fact > the opposite is probably true) Hallelujah, not a truer word spoken. Louisa.

Ooooo the sauce! :) Louisa.

Excuse me reeko, but the whippet is a northern working class reference, I will have you know that I have never owned a whippet in all the years I have lived. But come on, did you really have to bring a fictional working class heroine such as Pauline Fowler, an EastEnders legend, into a debate about an annoying co-worker? I'm sure you could have handled the analogy with a little less class based stereotypes. Louisa.

Apparently there's on Northcote Road? Checked their website and they're hardly a multinational chain, and they've got a limited number of outlets in the UK. Sounds good though! Louisa.

Well a few people have mentioned to me the 'Soup Dragon' premises, and on the southwark planning application site it does mention change of use from A1 to A3, so that's the only likely place I can think of currently. But thats been spoken about in length on another thread in the business section, so who knows. Unless someone else knows differently? Louisa.

Anyone know what they are like? I've heard talk of them coming to Lordship Lane. Never been in one or seen one for that matter. Louisa.

Are you suggesting because she has a working class London accent she is irritating? Louisa.

Oi stop hijacking my thread with your planned p*ss up!! Louisa.

Not a single Lib Dem on the panel? Even UKIP and RESPECT made an appearance... Louisa.

Sorry I'm just watching Question Time on the BBC. Any views on this one? It probably doesn't matter to most south Londoners. Louisa.

henryb Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes children do eat better in restaurants but that > is probably because the food is better. henryb I now wish there was a "like" button on this forum, similar to that of Facebook, just so I can "like" this one comment alone. Louisa.

Quids I agree to a point. On various holidays abroad I've noted both well behaved children and others less so, but as you say the general acceptance of families sharing the same environment as adults makes it seem as though its less of an issue. It only becomes an issue over here because we have such a polarised opinion towards who frequents these establishments. On a recent holiday to Gran Canaria I noticed that many of the various shopping centres with bars/cafes and restaurants were extremely family friendly by day, and as evening approached a lot of these places transformed into adult bars with people consuming alcohol and the families heading home. It only becomes an issue here because adults want the space to be child/family free all of the time, and families want the space to be family friendly all of the time. And so we end up with some establishments taking one route and others taking the other, with no happy medium. Louisa.

I find the opposite true. I agree most places around here are overpriced, but I'd argue more are child friendly these days than adult friendly. Also, as wee quinnie rightly points out, this is south east London, not south west, despite many people's aspirations. Louisa.

Oh no that's awful. Commiserations to his family. Louisa.