I think we're all pretty aware of that *Bob*. Lets look at your angle. They start routinely carrying a knife for whatever reason i.e protection, intimidation etc. For arguement's sake and to reflect reality they know it's wrong. They go to prison, hinder further chances in life.........tough, they were warned. O.k I accept that due to overcrowding and inappropriately allocated resources on behalf of the parole system then errors, some serious, are goin to be made and others will fall through the cracks. I'm judging from your scenario that this is their first offence. I grew up around gangs and I was always told at school and at home that it was illegal to carry an offensive weapon and that I would be in serious trouble if I was caught.