RosieH

Are the good people of East Dulwich going crazy with their paving?

For the closest thing to an Inside 72 vibe, try Bar Story in Peckham..?

Some of the ladies might be very interested indeed - that John Simm fella's not a bad watch either. Out tonight, but this will surely be one that C4 will be having on demand. And Azul - give in and let yourself go, it feels fantastic

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I had forgotten about the, kill them with > sticks, option.* > > *Warning: Killing people with sticks may be > damaging to their health and/or your social life. Quite right, I don't know what I was thinking. Don't kill Strawbs with sticks. I'm saying nothing on the subject of sticks and other people - that's entirely between you and your maker (or perhaps also the fuzz) edited to apologise for the sugar rush to the brain provoking unwarranted blood lust - and errant punctuation - I've had a lot of Haribo

Or... Kill them with sticks. (the people that is. sticks are an inefficient way to deal with emails, as they fear not the woody baton)

What, you mean there are single ones?

I'm going to marry Charlie Brooker. One day.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't believe people getting so wound up about > this, it's not a serious dance competition, it's a > Saturday night celebrity reality show that doesn't > count for anything. If they don't want a > personality to win over ability, then they > shouldn't have a public vote, and it should come > down to the judges choice. > > Load of nonsense! I can't believe you wrote that Keef. Of course it counts. Definitely. Tell me it counts. Please. (*hangs head in despair at precious lifeforce wasted on load of nonsense*)

bon3yard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've heard that excuse trotted out before but have > yet to experience any abuse directed at bus > drivers(unless after they've behaved like a > complete git). Tis all one way I tell thee! Disagree here - I've definitely seen it on many an occasion, and one time, back when there were still bus conductors, witnessed a violent physical assault. None of which is to say that I don't agree vehemently with Brendan.

sweet jesus - don't joke. I just started singing Michael Row The Boat Ashore, and even clapped along before I realised what i was doing. you've done a bad thing...

not to be pedantic, but would that constitute an express?

fair play - I'm contemplating singing lessons so that I can win at karaoke, which my friends tell me is not a competition, but I know better we should agree then that we will not sing along with Keef's band - unless they do do something very loud, like Slade

I've had the neighbours attempt an intervention before now but if the situation dictates, I can behave. giggirl, I assume you go to many gigs. do you never sing along then? most decorous.

good catch PGC

come on now giggirl, it wouldn't be christmas if people didn't sing along

Think you should consider Elvis's Santa Claus is Back in Town - makes the line "Santa Claus is comin' down your chimney tonight" sound absolutely filthy. My kind of Christmas song (although all of the above also super - except Fairytale of New York - as the original is without peer, could you possibly live up to it? actually scrap that, in fact all Christmas songs are super, make the whole set Christmas songs and wash it down with advocaat)

Mr MacGabhan, I would think the potential to run into the fabulous Michael Hodges would be the very reason to embrace the jostle outside the Camberwell Superdrug. Sadly, I have never done so, but am going to start hanging around in anticipation... But yes, I'm inclined to agree the wait between buses is getting longer. I'm not saying it was Boris wot did it, but in recent months, I've noticed not only a wait, but my bus journey time creeping up too, as buses are now overcrowded and it takes ages at every bus stop (what the hell is going to happen if he really does away with the bendies I shudder to think - it used to take 30 mins on the 12 to get to Elephant, if that, now it's more like 40/45). It could just be road works and the like, but I suspect foul play

She is very shiny and splendid. I hope in a repeat of the Rick Astley best artist ever voting hijack shenanigans (or whatever the MTV thing was) that the public votes John the winner. Power to the people. Personally I thought the travesty was keeping the wooden narcissist Lisa Snowdon in, in place of the fragrant and quite spectacular Cherie.

Another story in the news today was that of a baby and toddler stabbed to death, their mother held believed to be the murderer BBC - Baby and toddler killed at house Will we have the same outpouring over these two young lives tragically ended or is the one story enough for our needs? I'm not questioning anyone's motives on this thread: everyone is right to feel angry and outraged. But it makes me very queasy how one gory story can become the focus for an outpouring of grief and bloodlust, while many, many others are completely overlooked. (I think I'm repeating myself - I've said something very similar on another post on here about the death of a child I think - maybe it's time to withdraw)

microbite Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Maybe they are losing sleep, or maybe, as > may possibly be the case (as only letters of > reprimand have been sent out to the parties > involved so far), trying to brush it all under the > carpet, hope it all goes away, they might even > look for a scapegoat within their own organisation > if they can in fact even bother to go that far, > other than that it will do the usual rounds, > statements will be made i.e. "this must never > happen again", blah blah, "we have to review our > policies" have heard it all before! each time > something like this happens, they just refuse to > take any responsibility full stop. Microbite, I find this very very hard to believe - you're accusing them of a level of inhumanity that beggars belief. I don't believe they are doing this, not a jot of it. I don't know any social workers, but my sister is a childcare lawyer. She deals with cases of this kind of abuse on a weekly basis - and she is desperate and depressed. She cries often on the phone to me telling me the details of cases she is working on - and they're grim, to the point that I've asked her not to tell me because I can't bear to hear it. She's depressed because she can't save everyone, because there are shades of grey and decisions between the lesser of two evils that no one should have to make. But I take her word for it on social workers - she works with them day in day out - and she tells me that they too are depressed because they're doing an incredibly difficult job, under immense pressure and under resourced, knowing that if they make a mistake a child's life could be at risk or they could break up a family, and knowing that either way they're going to be villified by the public at large and hung out to dry by the press. And some of them suffer such severe depression and stress that they cannot work, which creates a vicious cycle of under-resourcing. I don't believe a single person on here who says they would have spotted it. They might have done, but the plain fact is that no one knows. If an inquiry shows that they're guilty of something, then so be it and remedial steps need to be taken, but it's not for us to decide. In so doing, it just makes it increasingly less likely that anyone's going to take on a job in social services, and frankly I don't blame them.

Whoa, I'm staggered to see Sean lambasted here for being the voice of reason. He certainly doesn't need me to stand up for him, but jeez, what he said, times ten. Of course this is a hugely emotive subject: it's hideous and heartbreaking and of course the case needs to be examined to see if it could have been prevented. The sad fact is that there are many murders of children within a family that don't get whipped up into a media frenzy, that pass un-trumpeted in a single column story on a left hand page somewhere near the middle of the paper because perhaps they're not as horribly remarkable as a story like this one. But without examining what makes parents kill their children, and that means understanding the "monsters", how are we ever going to prevent it? Perhaps we can't, perhaps it's an inherent part of human nature, but that shouldn't stop us trying. And Christ I'm going to sound like a bleeding heart liberal, but I've said it before elsewhere - a wish to inflict similar torture and death on the perpetrators - if someone really carried that out, how would that make them not a monster?

Saw Overspill at the Soho Theatre last week - a fantastic piece of theatre - inventive, exciting, poetic, funny and devastating. Unfortunately this is a bit after the fact as I saw it at the end of its run, but if you do see it transferred anywhere, I can't recommend it highly enough. agree with tinagwee on Ivanov - great stuff - suppose you wouldn't expect less from Branagh, but he's always irritated me before now. however found myself loving it and him (which will doubtless be a great comfort to the man)

Somehow he seems the type who can. For me it's more a case of hoping that he can live up to the promise, the hype, the hope and expectations, not only of Americans, but of millions of people around the world. The inevitable compromise that being in power brings can lead to anti-climax and disappointment, here's hoping it doesn't.

Whoa, chef from the Garrison - nice. Couldn't make last night but will definitely be checking out the new menu very soon

am confused about the sinister nature of this - live animals that they stick on the kebab spike, gimps in cages, pet cats?