RosieH

cuntybollocks no? dong

Personally, I found the naked cyclists edifying and delightful and I didn't perv in the least. Although I was witnessing from the front, rather than from the, ahem, rear. LM, slightly delayed reaction due to being out of commission for a while, but welcome on the Breeze thing. I don't cycle in London myself - scares the bejesus out of me - but a good friend works for British Cycling and this is a big initiative they're trying to push. Apparently women are under-represented - seems that's not the case round here!

dita, did you actually look at any pictures from the Slutwalk yesterday before coming to that conclusion? Most people were in jeans and t-shirts.

Otta, it depends whether the word ending in 's' is a singular or a plural.

In that case, can I call for threads to be sent there? ;-)

Thanks Mr Mockney, much appreciated. I knew things could be moved to the Lounge but wasn't aware stuff could be deemed too serious to stay there. If that's the case, I wonder if it might be time to revisit my former proposal for a Playpen or Sandpit section, where people who don't like sentences can hang out?

Can I ask why this thread was moved? I posted it in the Lounge as that's where I wanted it. Since when do we have a rule that the Lounge is only for tedious word games and comments about football? We're supposed to be able to talk about anything in there, and it wouldn't have attracted the comments it has had it been in the Drawing Room. Sorry to be a pain in the arse, but could you move it back please?

Huguenot, you persist in seeing this as anti-men. It isn't - as I said earlier in a response to Loz - women hold these attitudes too. Some men, some women. Some newspapers. Some judges. Some parents. Some friends. Some people in authority. Those stats I quoted, for the most part, talked about holding women "partially responsible". That might be acceptable to you, but it isn't to me. Would you consider it acceptable in a murder case if the victim was held partially responsible? Well they used to box m'lud, so it's in a way, a bit their fault that they were beaten to death. It's incredibly simple - if a man decides to rape someone, he and he alone is responsible. It is utterly abhorrent to suggest otherwise, and I can't believe you would hold out this "partially" to justify your argument. Far from these women being anti-men, it comes across like you are anti-feminist, I wouldn't be so crass as to say anti-women, but sometimes I really do wonder. As for the cop. Well, his advice was offensive. However equally as offensive as his advice that a woman could be partly culpable for her own assault, is his use of the word slut. There is no male equivalent. The judgment it casts on women goes to the very core of sexism and the madonna / whore dichotomy. Are we protesting against one cop in Canada, or was this simply the catalyst that makes us say we're sick to the back teeth of putting up with this crap in our daily lives? And you'd better believe our experiences of this are different. Mine is real and deeply personal, and it is backed up by work I have done with women's groups. Yours, seemingly, is founded on nothing more than supposition and dented ego. Tilting at windmills? Do you want to come here and tell me to my face that I'm imagining monsters where there are none?

Huguenot ladies and gentlemen, as ever, the voice of the female condition. Tell me H, you suspect and guess at much. You have experience of precisely nothing. You ignore stats that don't fit your idea of man-hating wimmin tilting at windmills. How is one man's (that's you) supposition entitled to negate the experience of thousands, maybe more, of women? This isn't binary, it's not something you can read up on in your physics textbook. Are you really possessed of that level of breathtaking arrogance?

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RosieH Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > To describe the criminal act of rape as > shagging > > someone is about as ignorant as it gets. > > It would be if that's what I was describing. Ahhh sorry, sorry, my bad. You were describing the criminal act of parkour sex, no?

Huguenot you're such a shit-stirring cunt. Did you read the stats that I quoted of attitudes FROM THE UK? Did ya, did ya? Women are pissed off, and sick and tired of being judged, and rightly so. The postcode lottery of the attrition rates (1% anyone) suggests that it's not just a problem with policefolk in Canadia. Now stop being such a macho cunt and fetch me some shoes.

To describe the criminal act of rape as shagging someone is about as ignorant as it gets. As for judging the 'class' or otherwise of a woman's attire, how's about you post a picture of one of your outfits on here and we'll all decide whether it shows the same wit, style and yes, class, as your posts? And if we don't like it, you know, well maybe someone will leap off a roof and brutalise you. And to think you could have prevented it simply by paying heed to the pages of GQ...

But they're tireless and hungry - so you can run, but eventually you'll tire and they'll catch up. It's like the hare and the cannibalistic tortoise innit?

See now, I'm a little bit chicken shit, and not sure I could watch that on my own. But let me know how it goes.

What ignorant rot. Shags? No class? Have a word with yourself man.

Well Otta, that's one four letter word beginning with C

Sold!

helpmeoutnow, you tell me.

God, I hope you're ok *Bob*. That's awful. They were all wearing the same tabard you say - I wonder if they might have been part of a gang.

For when they arrive. And helpmeoutnow, that's exactly what I'm planning for - so that when the times comes I can get out.

So zombies. Does a big one (for instance if Mike Tyson got bit) have more strength than a little old lady zombie? I'm wondering if the strength resides in the muscle and sinew, or if it's all in the zomebie seat in the brain stem. I'm preparing.

So explain rape as a weapon of war. The victims of the night stalker. Rape of women in burkhas. Rape as part of domestic violence. Do only pretty girls get raped? What are you basing your supposition on?

Alan Medic, I'm guessing you're having a laugh and trying to be something of an agent provocateur. Let's get one thing straight, rape is an act of violence, not of sex. The way a woman looks really has very little to do with it (you know, apart from men who hate their mother and subconsciously seek out women who look like her). And SJ yes. I came in too hard in that first response and was unkind. I'm sorry. Doesn't mean I don't think you're wrong though ;-)

You're hardly that. Never that.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > *visualises RosieH in red stilletos tottering down > Union Street at 12.30am, left hand grasping > handbag by the shoulder strap, right hand fending > off the ghosts of other pedestrians* Your sordid fantasies are no one's business but your own, mister.