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beef, I don't really think this has any bearing on the argument, but chimps do eat meat. "mainly herbivores" means omnivores, right? They are predators of certain other mammals, in particular the red colobus monkey, and have been known to eat other chimps after a battle. Meat has been shown to be important in denoting status within the group, and apparently in getting them sex (I'm going to make no comparisons to the attractiveness of a man who eats a bloody steak and one who eats sodding lentils). Like I say, has no bearing on this particular argument - but claiming they're "mainly herbivores" when some of them eat up to a ton of meat annually is a little disingenuous.

silverfox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the odd > butterfly on a misshapen cellulite buttock aren't > going to help him put bread on the table. Nice casual misogyny silverfox. You chose your forum moniker from a sense of irony or genuine egomania?

If it's Carlos Acosta, I'm there. The Chippendales you can keep.

beef, you could also say our teeth are more like a chimp's (closer relation than a gorilla) - omnivorous little cannibals edited because I cannae spell

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The SIGNED Linda Evans pic looks like one from > your personal shrine collection Nette, or did you > used to 'do' her down at the Vauxhall Tavern? If either of those things were true, she'd know that it's Krystle Carrington (not "Crystal") Nette, for shame!

Tony Rabbit Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Girls, > beware of Excalabur, you may get a sharp tip. "Sharp"? The mind boggles.

I was the one to bring up Norway, but I didn't compare her death to the Norway massacres - I was merely wondering why her death provoked more comment. I think Strafer answered part of the question, and perhaps the other part is that she lived her life in the tabloids, so people felt like they knew her more than they knew any of the people they're not lamenting. And for some, I accept that her music will have touched them. However I've known addicts who have died: they weren't prodigious singing talents and they were mourned rather less by people who had never met them than Amy Winehouse. But still, there were some people, who never knew or liked them, who turned up at the funerals, death glory hunters if you will, being seen to give a shit in death in a way they never did in life, and it fucked me right off. I smell a little of that in some of the comments I've been reading on the social interweb. Edited to add - Ah, I have just looked at the Norway thread and see that perhaps it wasn't just me getting zeban's dander up. But zeban, you're missing a crucial point that katienumbers summed up nicely.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You can take the girl out of Wigan... hell yeah

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Indeed. Which is the place that advertises hand > reared pork pies? I wish I could rear a pie.

Is anyone shocked or surprised? This thread has attracted considerably more comments than the one about the approx 100 people dead in Norway. I'm interested in what makes us appropriate the death of a celebrity as something we take personally. I'm not saying that to be callous. It's heartbreaking news for her friends and family. It's a shame that such talent went to waste. But It's not sad for me personally. I didn't know her. And yet my facebook news feed is nothing but all Amy, all the time: no famine in Somalia, no Norway. I'm sure that post-Diana there are theories as to why we do this, but I just don't get it.

Delicious

I like boys with tattoos. Please open a tattoo shop and bring us some long haired dudes.

Thing is, we'd all slope off over there after a few pints of an evening, deserting the fine and organic EDF, until morning came and with it the shame and the fear and the greasy aftertaste of pervasive self-loathing.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz. There is a big difference between how an > animal is killed, which is necessary for food > production, and an animal made to suffer every day > in pursuit of a better taste. As has already been pointed out, many (most?) animals are made to suffer every day in pursuit of a better price. We Brits will have our meat at every meal. To echo Mockney's post a little, I trust that those talking about the disgusting practices of foie gras production eat only free range (as a minimum) meat..?

man brought cats man bad cats bad birds good skin cats eat cats eat cats good

Men in kilts are really hot, no two ways about it. I'm hoping some of the Scottish contingent might treat us to a glimpse of sporran on the Barry Barry...

Let's kill 200,000 cats everyday. Although not for fun, no. For RSPB reasons, yes.

Although I wish they would. Yes, maybe "is seen to" punish the little guy would be more accurate. Still no sign of Rebecca Brooks.

Yes, a grandiose headline-grabbing mea culpa that punishes the little guy and not the people that did wrong. So much horseshit smoke and mirrors.

Sorry taper - really slow internet connection - that just took about 3 minute to load.

Give it two weeks and they'll launch the Sunday Sun.

Come on Nette, you KNOW he was on an iphone.

Annette Curtain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A Blackberry just makes you look like the c.nut > you really are. Bollocks. A blackberry makes you look like you actually do some work and don't just have a phone to post pictures on here and generally be a cooler-than-thou, dad-dancer. 'Cept now every kid on the bus has got one, it doesn't make you look cooler than anyone, granddad. If it weren't for needing to send emails, I wouldn't have a blackberry. But email's great and it's irredeemably shit on an iphone. Blackberries make you look like a boring square. But that's what I am.

Thanks guys.

Having a treat day out with a girlfriend tomorrow - was originally going to be the usual: pampering, afternoon tea etc, but as it's such glorious weather keen to make the most of outside. Needs to be central, as friend's an out of towner, and budget not really a consideration. Fun, silliness and fizz all most welcome - any ideas?