RosieH

Yay, Team Keef here we come.

Oh Keef, don't say that. I wanna buy you a drink.

That's interesting Loz - can you point me in the direction of the info that says 6% is comparable to other crimes? The 58% stat, while baldly accurate as the conviction rate for cases that do make it to court, doesn't account for the huge number of cases that don't. And then you have of course the stigma around rape, that may be unique to crimes of sexual violence, that means that many crimes go unreported. These issues need to be addressed. However the C4 report was looking specifically at the military and it was that that interested me - why the conviction rate should be less than half that of a civilian court. My understanding of the report is that it covers all complaints - though the specific examples given were of women civilians in Germany.

Oh, Thora not Douglas..? Am in a right pissy mood - shall remove myself until I am fit for company.

Dear Admin. Please can we set up a new area of the forum called The Sandpit? This would be an area for remedials with no sharp objects.

Personally I quite like cock (subject to who's it's attached to), so I'm not getting it DJKQ. Frankly I'm not getting any of this thread. What the fuck?

A shocking report by Channel 4 News today shows that conviction rates following investigations of rape in the military justice system are a staggeringly low 2.6%. And we thought 6% in civilian courts was appalling. My knee jerk reaction as a woman is revulsion at a violent misogynistic organisation that protects its own. On reflection though, and before I start picketing the MOD, I wonder about wider prosecutions of all violent assault within the armed forces, whether it's sexual in nature, or a group of squaddies kicking the shit out of someone they don't like the look of in town on a Saturday night. Is the conviction rate for those too around half that of all forms of violent assault outside of the military? I've no doubt that the military protects its own, but is it a question of degree, or is rape a special, and deeply disturbing, case?

People also like fireworks for: weddings, new year (ours, Chinese, Thai, probably some others), Eid, the end of Disneyland (night time that is, not apocalypse), July 4th (Americans celebrating my birthday). All kinds of partying shenanigans. More shenanigans please, but keep them out of *Bob*'s face.

Hell yeah, why not.

Am irritated it isn't on iplayer - only caught one episode so far. If anyone has in on DVD they'd be willing to lend, I'd really love to see the whole series.

I quite liked Diana Vickers too, until she started getting too Dolores Cranberry with her caterwauling. Tonight's Gaga outfit was quite a transformation, and one of which I entirely approve. Storm was just embarrassing.

My apologies Atticus. No offence intended.

Better that than the ear bleed caused by the truly execrable Katy Perry.

Because you seem to think that Admin is in some way censoring you, rather than simply keeping the place tidy by moving your threads into the correct sections. And you've started a second thread about being censored in the space of, what, 3 minutes? Persecution complex?

Oh my god, you're mental.

And now this! What greater indignities can they heap upon you?

So what we're saying is that in a plane crash scenario, we're talking p?t? rather than steak...

Humour reached SE15 yet nancy?

Is there not a troll school, providing tactics and brainstorming techniques to come up with ideas to get the punters going?

Only with you Steve.

Quids, come here while I kiss you. I didn't expect you to be interested, but some people like that kind of thing.

fucknuts works If anyone's interested in a film about civil disobedience surrounding climate change, have a look here: Just Do It. Subtitled "the inside story on the UK's biggest troublemakers", it's a documentary looking at climate change protestors, currently in post-production and looking to raise funding. If you support their cause, have a shufty and give them some money - for every pound they raise in October, Lush (makers of uber-smelly bath things) will match fund it. I saw some of the edits earlier this week and it was moving and quite affecting (while some bits weren't quite my kind of politics too) but worth a look. And if you're not a big old fan of oil, or at least the oil industry's part in climate change, there's a march tomorrow. Get creative and get disobedient: www.crudeawakening.org.uk

These days I think it behoves us all to take along some Ryvita breakfast biscuits when travelling by plane over the Andes or hiking in the mountains, so that we don't HAVE to eat each other. That said, I don't think you can slit the jugular and drink the still-warm blood of a biscuit.

Funnily enough, I can believe that HAL.

My point is that it's only symbolic if you're not Catholic - it's still just bread and wine. Only Catholics suppose themselves to be eating the actual body and blood of Christ through the magic of transubstantiation.