mamafeelgood

it was not a personal question about specific preference, i was just interested in what one might consider worth paying more for that's all and if it's 'middle class' to want to eat well or just plain common sense but sadly due to cost not available to anyone. i don't know if i'd call GBK middle class, it's just a chain (oooooooh noooooooooooooooo i fired another hot topic up there) either way i stand by the fact that bmc is not worth the hype, as mentioned before i think petit tou just off bellenden beats it hands down, oh and the peckham park cafe.

clive what sanity you speak. speaking from family experience, we are the only non continental dwellers, it is pathetic what people have accepted as 'good' food in this country. having said this, i have never liked the service or the food in BMC, i think it's overpriced for what they offer. p.s. louisa: if one prefers free range eggs to battery, or, organic sausages to meat scraped off the floor ones - does that automatically make the person someone you deride? or does that demonstrate that the person cares about what they put on their mouth? i am not having a go, i am genuinely interested to know what you think about quality of food, but please do not hide behind class stereotypes...

enough already. how many times does this forum have to be jammed with parent/childless snoreathon argument?? as a mum who takes kids in pubs but in the afternoon only i can only agree that there are some parents that really just don't look out for their kids. i can't count the amount of times i have turned up with toys etc... to keep kids distracted when children who have been left to run around come and snatch them so i end up trying to keep things calm for everyone. it annoys the hell out of me. so even with kids i have had enough of parents who do not seem to care about what their children get up to when out. i have also had enough of this totally selfish sob from all these people who can't stand buggies that are actually better for your back or to see children out and about with their parents enjoying things that make life good. get over it or go somewhere else. my advice to you: if someones' kid is annoying you TELL THEM (yes i did mean to shout there) otherwise they will just keep doing it. stop bitching on forums, it's not like your tackling a teenager on a bus, these are toddlers so speak up...

plus they're imported dutch flowers, killing off the british flower industry. saw an interesting doc on this and i have since stopped buying imported flowers, so yes, we have less flowers but if i'm going to be like that about my veg why be a hypocrite regarding flowers. it winds me up no end this lorry, blocks up LL causing bad traffic and as pointed out it's actually illegal to park on the zig zag lines...

i invested in the fantastically named kaybosh, which kills them.

i have happily cohabited with a load since moving in, the only reason i would like them all dead is due to their cruel british bating. so i look forward to hearing of any good tricks to get rid of them, i wonder if C no.5 will have the same effect as barbie perfume....

possibly the best kids telly ever made?

i think anyone that tunes into the brits expecting it to represent anything real about the music 'scene' rather than 'industry' is rather naive. i thought the fearne bits behind stage were classic, the fact that one of the winners when asked 'has it sunk in yet' replied 'well i've known since last year' and every time a phone line was mentioned a lengthy clause about being charged but not counted was added.

so where should things be headed? complete subsidiarity in the political system? functionalism? anarcho syndicalism? how does one extract money from politics? or, is politics the 20th century religion that is spent and no longer represents how to run society? i feel a lounge just round the corner so i shall stop posting off topic > back on thread... recession down LL: well should keep some people happy, all those cursed delis and tat shops, all those kids emporiums and nice restaurants going going gone.

oh yes cameron and boris would have run the show so differently...oh i suppose they may have taxed us less along the line and we wouldn't have a mayor. a case of cleopatras nose, if the reference is lost can i recommend war and peace by tolstoy (i am not meaning any of this to sound catty, more fun i hope) but as history has always shown no one person runs the band, yet the band plays on. so long as the bbc keeps making great telly and i can enjoy the smooth tones of radio 4 i'm happy as a man called larry, who ever he may be.

happy happy happy joy joy joy gordon? you think he be the 'big man' that decide these things...i'm sure he wishes he had that much power. buying over priced houses on mortgages 5x an income, buying on 0% credit cards all that stuff that was *really* needed and now rots away wasted as a ridiculous interest rate is charged on late card repayments... you name it on all levels, everyone plays a part.

ha! i roll in a 1986 saab, is that ok as it's swedish? the heated seats no longer work but hey it'll do me and my se5 existence ...

ha! just been on the wd forum and noted that many threads in the lounge had not been posted on since mid jan and there a couple of threads dedicated to dissing east dulwich, fantastic. all this love would make ken proud of this great melting pot of a city. i have always loved how tolerance is preached for all except: clapham and 3 wheelers...

nnnooooooooooooooooooo the 3 wheeler attacked again. do i need to repeat they sell because they are a dream on your back and your bank balance (osteopaths bills saved etc...) and they are not as expensive as many 4 wheelers out there. i love maclarens, indeed started with one but you try pushing 2 x 15 kilos up horniman gardens...blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i'm loving the attack, bring it on. i grew up in an area which like dulwich had an east/north name share and this fighting never happened, how exciting. should we deploy the scarey kids by the train station/estate as the infantry? i'm with dulwich mum (and kate adie) here: lipstick on the frontline. oh, but i don't wear lipstick...so red 3 wheeler on the frontline.

the safer neighbourhoods team are very helpful in south camberwell. whenever i have reported a concern (only twice) they have reacted promptly. i have said this on another thread, but they are the people to report not just an actual attack but what you see developing around you. we have to work with them as their eyes and ears on the ground. obviously don't waste their time but if you are concerned about a shift of mood from a group of kids and it feels serious let them know. also, i recently heard on R4 that if you see a dog being allowed or encouraged to rip up street furniture or feel that the people looking after the dog are not treating it well/handling it properly you can call the rspca and they can act on your behalf. again, like with the neighbourhood team let them know but don't waste their time.

NO i don't want an se22 post code, i benefit from all the delights of east dulwich but get cheap cabs with my post code from town. leave se5 alone thank you, i at least am very happy with my 5 and 020 7 number...

i think the ash tray sounds like a good diplomatic idea, making the point, giving them no excuse to carry on and not pointing the finger at anyone. if it persists then shoot to kill ...

that somerfields is a joke. you can be stood at those tills long enough to have gone to sainsburys, picked up all the items that you wanted for less and be back in ED, whilst i'm still stood in the queue at somerfields.

didn't mean to upset anyone about gatwick. i just happen to have lived most of my life way closer to heathrow and am still shocked at the noise people near airports accept as normal. i don't wish that noise on anyone and apologise to the people of gatwick, indeed anyone who has to suffer the 4 a.m. rumble of a boeing anouncing the start of a regular flow all day. personally on this one i'm an idealist hippy who, like with car use, hopes that the problem will go away. but i know it won't.

pleased to see people taking a big issue seriously. the expansion of heathrow is ridiculous, it's about making more money for baa etc... are there any reasons why expansion of gatwick is not undertaken before adding more terminals and traffic at heathrow? thanks for letting me know about the consultation.

well i have heard good things about charter and the trickle down effect of people with toddlers now choosing to opt state will have an impact onto secondary. this is exactly what happened where i grew up in london, the secondary had a bad rep but good teachers and parents who couldn't afford fees and mortgage. the school quickly picked up and i left with 9 o levels. not everyone did but those of us who wanted to pass could.

pete dogherty (forgotten how to spell his over rated name)

ha ha, love it bob fannyface would be the victorian version ... and it requires no stars.

yes, but sadly they are both rather catchy... how about spaceface. that sounds more like a diss.

when i read the southward bumpf it was about distance from school but i'm not 100% sure. i know that special needs etc.. are all taken into consideration.