Jah Lush

Not so fast - Who will have the balls to trigger Article 50? From the guardians comments section: If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost. Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron. With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership. How? Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor. And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew. The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction. The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50? Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders? Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated. If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act. The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice. When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was "never". When Michael Gove went on and on about "informal negotiations" ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take. All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.

They are both equally odious lying creeps. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars?CMP=share_btn_fb

aerie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ok, still needing guidance on how to post a vid, Hi aerie. Here's how to post a vid from you tube. Click share, then click embed, copy the link in blue then paste on here.

Marvellous. Have fun.

Whilst you're there if you fancy something truly wild, thrilling and savage go and see Warmduscher (just one of Saul Adamczewski's other bands (Fat White Family, Moonlandingz) Sunday 5pm at the Crows Nest and also Sunday 2am at the Gorilla Bar. I doubt very much they'll be shown on TV which is a bloody shame.

Happy to oblige aerie.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How did Spurs sign Wanyama for only ?11m? > Any chance Daniel Levy could become PM?... Or Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Couldn't give a toss. Full of muddy middle class muppets. Have zero interest of anyone on the main stages who all 'suck Satan's cock."

Blimey! That's news to me, never heard about that guy and I consider myself an expert on the Stones. Still, it does say at the end of that wiki piece "The veracity of these claims is disputed. "Mr. Jimmy" more likely refers to Rolling Stones producer Jimmy Miller." So I reckon I'm correct.

50 years later. http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/news/vote-remain-and-well-forgive-you-for-1966-german-newspaper-wade-into-brexit-debate/ar-AAhvsng?ocid=spartanntp

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jah Lush Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'm too chilled out to suffer anxiety attacks. > I'm > > not anxious, miffed or disappointed either. The > > film's great. Very funny. Not seen it in years. > I > > lent the copy I had on tape to someone years > ago > > and never got it back. I won't now coz he's > dead. > > That's totally chilled out. I'm merely moribund. > > > > > Yes, I could murder a pint... and several more > > too. > > You sure your not confusing being self-medicated > with being chilled out as your analysts might > say.....if you had one. Unfortunately, I'm almost completely straight these days. Can't afford the Persians anymore since I stopped working. Many years ago I spoke with a trick cyclist and he chucked a snooker ball at me and asked me to 'peel it.' I chucked it back at him and said 'you peel and I'll eat it.' So that went well.

Absobloodylutely.

Elphinstone's Army Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Mr Jimmy was the guy playing the drums? Jimmy Miller indeed played drums on the track. He produced the album too.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You certainly aren't drinking alone. I'm on the > Malbec, which considering the weather is quite > unusual for me. > > Louisa. I bloody love Malbec. Excellent choice.

I'm too chilled out to suffer anxiety attacks. I'm not anxious, miffed or disappointed either. The film's great. Very funny. Not seen it in years. I lent the copy I had on tape to someone years ago and never got it back. I won't now coz he's dead. That's totally chilled out. I'm merely moribund. Yes, I could murder a pint... and several more too.

I saw the thread subject and naturally thought you were going to be discussing one Mel Brooks funniest movies. Disappointed you weren't.

He wouldn't let it lie... Let it go PD. Let it go.

The fuckers who did that need a good kick in the balls.

Seriously doubt that se15mum. I would have thought website only. During the season of course you can get stuff at the ground on match days but I think you're going to be out of luck.

Please let it happen.

Bloody brilliant day of football.

Agree about Bilic. He's been excellent value. I've been saying all tournament Harry Kane needs Delle Alli playing up behind him as he does at Spurs and in previous England games. The goals will come.

You don't just walk out of the house one day to go for a walk and then disappear without contacting anyone. So it is possible he is having some mental health issues. I hope he is found safe and sound and returns home to his loved ones.