Tony.London Suburbs

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe not back then eh tone ;-) > > :)) Actually Kel, best that I remove that "denial" joke as some would love to misinterpret it....:)

Sit on it and twirl. I sign I must remember for future "engagements" with The EDF Massif "clique" p.s There is NO "clique"....

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: 433-9. Be great if Swann gets a well-deserved 50.. But doesn't get it as Monty is out on the last ball of the over. Swann 47 Not Out...

433-9. Be great if Swann gets a well-deserved 50..

Marmora Man Wrote: Two English spinners now watching how much spin the wicket is taking. Indeed. This is what I said half-hour ago. "Dry Pitch, turning, English Spinners are drooling...."

Dry Pitch, turning, English Spinners are drooling....

A very worthwhile cause. Well done to all who made this possible.>:D<

Congratulations Guys..>:D

Basically Tony, I wanted to defend you a bit in my first post, as I felt that people were labelling you as a biggot, without really reading your points. However, you do seem to just bash on and on and on with the same points, and pick very specific bits of other people's posts to suite your argument, often out of context from that in which they were written. I agree strongly that to raise questions about immigration and asylum, DOES NOT make one a racist BNP/UKIP voting c**t. These things sometimes need discussing, and a lot of people need to worry less about appearing "right on", and saying the right things. However, there are times when you do start to wonder if a person just plain doesn't want other people here. Keef this is what I wrote to you: "All abuses are wrong and The Council place should be forfeited and not be passed down the Generations. Many people living in The Suburbs now have done so on the back of profiting from the sale of their Council place. So I agree there have been many "White/British" abuses, as well".... To which Santerme replied to me: It is interesting that you think that it is White/British abuse to have profited from the purchase and sale of a Council property. Why is that abuse of the system? I know many non caucasians who benefitted equally from it. Sometimes you just cannae win..lol

david_carnell Wrote: And one last point. TLS, you asked how "YOU" would feel (your caps btw) if one of "THEM" continually got promoted at work despite your own longevity of tenure. I'm afraid the comparison doesn't hold water. Housing is assigned on basis of need on a points based system. Promotion at work is neither based on need nor on permanence but rather on skill and potential. Does that answer one of your many questions? Yes david though I'm sure we could think of a similar situation that is based on being nearer the front of a queue and others continually, over a long period of time, suddenly appearring and being placed before you.

Talking about this to some old South Londoners only yesterday. They said that the WAlworth Branch was closed and I said all of them have gradually gone as the demand has decresed due to the demographic in the areas that they were situated changing. Used to come back to South London and buy 6 lbs of Chipolatas and put them into the freezer. Great shame but I haven't found a decent substitute.

You are in great company here Muley! There's a positive plethora of "theoretists" on The EDF. As for practical experience of situations they can always consult the official figures quoted in The Guardian or FT....

Keef Wrote: But Tony, I thought we'd made it clear that that doesn't really happen, at least not to he degree you seem to think it does. Besides, if you'd seen some of the places I've seen, where asylum seekers have been housed, you wouldn't be so quick to want to take their place! Its good to speak to someone who has "practical" experience of the situation rather than the endless stream of "thereorists" here who are not inconvenienced or involved in any way Keef. That study only involved the last 5 years and the point, also, is that most Asylum Seekers gain Housing by way of Social Services finding them a place in the Private Sector. It did really happen for the 35/40 years before this study Keef. Of course, as you know, some of the places are dreadful. I've seen some too and would not want to live there, for sure.

Chick Wrote: This is just rubbish. It was your girlfriend Thatcher who wrecked social housing in the eighties, the new Tories have done nothing to improve things. The two points are not mutually exclusive. Dear Margeret did lower the Housing stock enormously. The successive Governments, as you say, have done nothing since. However that doesn't in any way change the fact that while nearly 100% of Asylum Seekers are"Homeless" and go straight to the highest category of priority only a small proportion of Guys already on the list are already in the highest category i.e Homeless so everyone else is pushed further down, accordingly.

KalamityKel Wrote: a definition LOL..:)

Strauss has waltzed off, as well.

Jeremy Wrote: Seems like an oxymoron... single males don't have wives and children! But anway, you know as well as I do that it's not *only* single males. There are many families who have sought asylum in the UK. Regarding economic migrants... what's so wrong with a young man wanting to go abroad to earn some money? I think this may be the point which we> fundamentally disagree on... Of course I meant Males arriving here "solo". Why would those Males choose Britain? We don't disagree at all on that Jeremy. My problem and the problem of countless others who have been disadvantaged by the Housing System is "Asylum Seekers" automatically joining the small proportion existing applicants on the Housing List at the top of the queue, thus keeping everyone else who would like Social Housing where they are for far longer than they would have been or permanently in some areas.

Well, at least, you are not referring to me Brendan as I make a point of replying to questions though, invariably, my questions go unanswered. Many excuses are given for the lack of an answer, usually, but I heavily suspect people haven't got one most of the time. I asked, for example, if people would be resentful if, at work, they were continually beaten to a Promotion by someone coming from outside and this continued to happen for decades. I asked how people would feel about that. All the time the person was kept down ( the equivalent of not being promoted onthe Waiting List) as others continually came over their heads, and remembering many have no other accomodation to go to they can not go to another "job" as it were. I also asked why it is, invariably, only Single Males trying to "flee persecution" when if the Countries they are fleeing from are so ghastly that they are prepared to leave their Women and children behind. I also enquired why so many want to come to Britain and have crossed many Countries to do so when they have no natural association or connetion to this Nation ( this was partially addressed)... Why do think this is Brendan?

Maurice Wrote: I do believe I have seen you wandering around Camberwell Green speaking to strangers. Do you carry a green bottle wrapped in brown paper? Old fishing hat atop your head? Marvellous. We have met before! You are confusing me with "Old Archie" only it was an old McDonalds hat...have I ever regaled you with a little vignette about the time "Archie" abused me and a friend down The Walworth Road Mo?.....Anyway we were walking down the road, not a care in the World when..............

Santerme Wrote: That's Weymouth in high season. Or Chesil Beach in any season...B)

Maurice you are a squeeze Old Bean.:)) I'm extremely sociable so deliberately speak to people on Buses/In Betting Shops/Shops, even on the Street sometimes. Complete strangers and you know what? Once people have overcome their initial shock/suspicion they will engage you and youcan learn something from everyone. There has not been one story on here thats not true but I only, currently, attend work either 9 or 12 Hours weekly so gives me ample time to get my "4-Zone=?6.30 Day-Pass" and Tour round "my" London Town....

woofmarkthedog Wrote: Not enough social housing stock & a stupid policy of "right to buy" council houses many of which got sold on at a profit. I heard last week of a London housing assoc/scheme building houses in Worthing to give people a chance to live somewhere decent Are you implying that living in Inner London is not "decent" Woof? :)) btw: Yesterday I returned to Walworth near where Dr. Crane had his practice. I saw more anti-social behaviour in 10/15 minutes than I have done on x years elsewhere...lol There was the drunk White Woman abusing everyone she passed followed by an equally drunk Guy who she met up with later and they both started abusing people. Then there was the crazy Rastafarian Guy who burst into the betting shop and called everyone "bitches" and acted crazily out on the street. Then we had a Mixed couple arguing loudly followed by a Mixed Raced Woman/Girl bashing her fist into her hand continually shouting to the Guy she was with "I'm gonna xxxxxx her" ( can't remember the charming phrase now) ....4 episodes in around 10 minutes from 4 different groups...how I miss the "vitality" of my Walworth..lol

Jeremy Wrote: Please, please remember that "indigenous" is not an indication of immigration status or nationality. It's totally irrelevant and gives this thread a very, very nasty undertone. The term is used to denote particular peoples and groups around the world who, as well as being native to or associated with some given territory. The indigenous Australians are the Aboriginals. Would you say thats a "nasty" term if applied to them Jeremy and why do you feel its a nasty term anyway?

red devil Wrote: Tony, it's one thing being resentful against the system, but it's another being resentful against immigrants, which is what you come across as, despite your 'Jamaican ladyfriend'... I'm not going to try to change your opinion RD because I've learned that it is pointless "defensively" disputing this.

Keef Wrote: Santerme, I suspect Tony was just responding to my post, which specifically mentioned a white british person. I doubt he was implying that only white british people benefitted from right to buy. Thats right. Santerme buying your Council property is not an abuse ofthe system at all.