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ok ,didn't realise there was such a thing as temporary lines . Makes sense . Thanks for clearing that up .

Anyone else thinking that painting and then removing yellow lines to allow a few weeks work seems like an expensive overkill ? Was there no other method ?

" They explained they'd seen dramatic improvement in primary school SAT scores but stable scores in non verbal reasoning scores used for banding. " So no change in results of non verbal tests used to place pupils in bands ? But pupils transferring from the feeder primary school gain 25 out of 61 places in the top 2 bands . Even though their success rate in the banding tests remain stable ?

Good story for South London Press . Who knows may even galvanise Southwark into responding . " I do understand that community councils can be allocated control of smallish funds, which they can allocate in prescribed areas, and that of course they can express opinions on anything of relevance. But what actual power and function do they have in matters of traffic management decisions and actions? A priori, perhaps na?vely, I'd have assumed none, other than as a stater of opinion. " - good point Ianr . Would love to know the answer . Sympathies to those affected .Life is stressful enough .

Chapter and verse on banding if it helps anyone . http://media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/i/informationnoteonbandingfeb09.pdf

I'm not sure what to think about this . I don't like the idea of all through schools - just feel that kids sometimes need a fresh start and that their options to go elsewhere will be diminishing with this trend . Also feels a bit like indoctrination - Pimlico Academy that I'm a little familar with and follow are very keen on a particular American curriculum following ED Hirsch and they start young with them at primary . Reminds me of that Jesuit thing - give me a boy at 7 ..... .Except now it's a child at 4 or 5 .http://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/oct/15/hirsch-core-knowledge-curriculum-review I digress . Could not including the primary transfer pupils in the banded places available be fairer ? Means all external candidates are competing on a level playing field ? But obvioulsly limits amount of places available and presumably shifts the whole " buying into the area " tactic down to primary school level . What a nightmare . What a mistake that we've gone down this route of Academys ,Free Schools and not put the money poured into them to better use in improving LA ( and in my dream world inner london authority ) schools .

I'm not sure I can get my head round it either .....but it does seem that if you take the numbers of places offered to external applicants ( ie total number less places going to primary school transfers ) the band sizes are almost equal . 18 , 18 , 17 ,19 ,17 ,20 ,19 ,19 ,19 , And yes it does look like a large nos transferring from the primary school are in the higher bands - 15 in band 1 and 10 in band 2 .

If you deduct the nos of pupils transferring from the primary school the band sizes become more equal .

As simone and mariababe say ( if I'm reading their posts correctly ) Haberdashers divide up each years applications into 9 ,so the score needed for each band will vary each year according to who has applied . My understanding is that Haberdashers band by score and allocate places within the bands by giving priority according to distance . I think you're right that this can disadvantage yr 6 pupils if there are a lot of high scoring pupils all competing for a couple of top bands . Again as far as I understand Harris have a different way of banding in that the scores required for each band reflect the national average scores rather than the top ninth /bottom ninth etc of those applying in any particular year . I think banding is not as simple as it seems ,I know I find it confusing ,and I don't think schools publish much information . You can search on line on gov websites with guidance on admissions policies and there is some detail there on different types of banding .

Bit harsh mariababe . Many school websites lack clear detailed information . Hardly surprising that people get information from picking things up from word of mouth/on line forums . I'm sure if one looks at the two schools admissions policies ( as opposed to oversubscription ) there are more similarities than differences - looked after children etc .

Vik - I thought Charter's admission policy was solely on safe walking distance ,giving priority to those who live closest to school . And I thought Haberdasher's was banded ? Have one of them changed ? Edited to add - might be a sucking eggs situation here and if so apologies ,but bear in mind that what when we/most of us say Admissions Policy what we're refering to is the oversubscription polocy .

I found a description of their admissions/oversubscrition policy on a 2008 Funding Agreement which I guess might be current policy . My reading is that they have 9 bands and they divide up each years intake ( as opposed to referencing to national scores ) and try and fill each band with equal numbers . Assume they give preference to proximity within those bands . Can anyone post a link to a current doc explaining policy ? Will they use same policy if they go ahead with new school ?

Hindmans Rd ? Double yellow lines ? Surely a mistake ?

minder - the cost of the school - land ,building ,teachers salaries - will be paid for by the government with tax payers money . The setting up of a new school can now be activated by a group of individuals who feel they need a new school near them . The curriculum and terms and conditions pay ,qualifications etc of staff employed can be determined by the sponsor chosen to run the school . So pretty important stuff ,pretty important decision about who is to run the school .

Can anyone point me to a document where Haberdashers explain their banding system ?

I think we have to blame the system , not The Charter School . It allows a group of people to get together and start proceedings for a new school in the interests of expanding choice . That group of people make a decision on which sponsor to go with . I'm sure they try to represent what they perceive people's wishes to be . Personally I feel the process here was a little lacking in substance and transparency ,but that's just my view and it doesn't preclude my view that those parents involved acted with the best of intentions .

When I drove past the bins today I realised that they weren't fixed and could easily ( tho not if recovering from surgery ) be shoved along . If I'd realised that I wouldn't have raised the issue in the first place . Thanks to whoever has moved them . I'm afraid I don't quite understand the point Kiera makes .

James ,just to be clear the guardrailing is not a problem . It is the large litter/recycling bins that are the problem . They have recently appeared in this position and presumably could easily be removed . 20mph not an element in positioning of bins .

James ,apologies if this has already have been raised but - junction of Whately Rd and Lordship Lane ,turning right into Lordship Lane from Whately Rd ,vision is badly obscured for motorists by recycling bins . Could they be relocated ?

Mmmm ,well we ( I ) need to find out ,I fear loss of hearing is creeping up on me . As is . Sigh .

" if you're going mutton there's not much point buying expensive gear. " Is that professional advice ? I'd always understood that loosing one's hearing involved becoming less able to hear certain pitches ,high I think . So simply amplifying everything would be the equivalent of having glasses that simply magnified everything . Was thinking that decent quality might be beneficial . Would be interested to know anyone's experience ,having hearing problems myself .

See here for more about this . http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1299262

I found Aloe Vera ( I used one from Health Matters ,honey flavoured ) good . You only take a mouthful twice a day .

Actually the more I think about this the more I think that I wouldn't trust the workmanship of someone who took liberty's like that in my home .

Jeremy - it was a firm called Bertrams http://www.bertrambuilders.co.uk/. Very nice they were too. Shocked that such normal behaviour ( ie not helping yoursef or expecting your client to offer but taking responsibilty for your own tea breaks ) is considered exceptional .